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Offline Captain Virgil Hilts

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« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2005, 10:30:54 AM »
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home defense = mossberg 500 12ga with the plug out loaded with rifled slugs.  them coach guns in 20ga sure are nice looking though.


Slugs are VERY dangerous in home defense, they penetrate ANY interior home building material. So long as you have no other family and pet to worry about hitting, you're okay. I saw a 12 gauge Foster slug go through THREE sheetrock walls inlcuding two 2x4's edge wise and still go through a refridgerator.
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« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2005, 10:40:57 AM »
One of my favorite 12ga shells are the slugs I picked up at a gun show. Each shell has 2 slugs that are connected with 12ft of piano wire. Awesome.:cool:
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« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2005, 11:00:06 AM »
And illegal as hell.
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« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2005, 11:45:03 AM »
Illegal to hunt with, but that's not their purpose.;)
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« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2005, 02:14:20 PM »
I own two Coach Shotguns a 12 gauge and a .410 both are fun to shoot and easy to load in a hurry. I have several others and keep the 12 bedside with shells near by.
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« Reply #20 on: July 10, 2005, 05:10:43 AM »
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One of my favorite 12ga shells are the slugs I picked up at a gun show. Each shell has 2 slugs that are connected with 12ft of piano wire. Awesome.:cool:


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« Reply #21 on: July 10, 2005, 05:43:01 AM »
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Slugs are VERY dangerous in home defense, they penetrate ANY interior home building material. So long as you have no other family and pet to worry about hitting, you're okay. I saw a 12 gauge Foster slug go through THREE sheetrock walls inlcuding two 2x4's edge wise and still go through a refridgerator.


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Offline Captain Virgil Hilts

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« Reply #22 on: July 10, 2005, 09:16:56 AM »
They over penetrate PEOPLE too.
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« Reply #23 on: July 10, 2005, 09:51:05 AM »
A 12 guage Coach would be a pretty fair choice for either situation, the only accomodation would be the load.

As stated, you can use slugs for bear, and around the house, #6 shot would discourage the heck outta a home intruder without the overpenetration of more serious loads.  Double 00 buckshot is a very good self defense load, and will kill a person quite well if that is your intention, but will have more wall penetration capability.

Probably one of the better choice for a self-defense weapon if someone doesnt want to spend the time to become an experienced shooter, but no matter, whoever is planning to be able to use it, they must be familiar with it and have had some practice.

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« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2005, 12:51:46 PM »
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They over penetrate PEOPLE too.


I think this one could win for understatement of the year.  :)

Shoot an intruder with a 12 ga. slug, watch a nice round 1 inch hole appear in him, watch the same hole appear in the wall behind him, in the next wall behind that one, through the picture window in your living room, through the windsheild of your car, through the backseat and MAYBE stop in the trunk.

Ok, that may be an exaggeration, but not by much.

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A 12 guage Coach would be a pretty fair choice for either situation, the only accomodation would be the load.

As stated, you can use slugs for bear, and around the house, #6 shot would discourage the heck outta a home intruder without the overpenetration of more serious loads. Double 00 buckshot is a very good self defense load, and will kill a person quite well if that is your intention, but will have more wall penetration capability.

Probably one of the better choice for a self-defense weapon if someone doesnt want to spend the time to become an experienced shooter, but no matter, whoever is planning to be able to use it, they must be familiar with it and have had some practice.

dago


IMO, 00 Buck is the best home defense round ever made.  Lots of folks would disagree with that I'm sure.  By the same token, I'm a big fan of Glaser bullets in handguns for home defense, while others disagree there too.  Like Dago and some of the others said, slugs (like hi-power hunting rifle rounds) are designed to penetrate the heavy muscle and bone mass of a large animal like deer or bear.  They arent designed for wimpy creatures like us.
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« Reply #25 on: July 11, 2005, 09:14:59 AM »
For shotguns I like a pump.. the 97 or 12 winchester are very reliable.  I have two 97's

#4 buck is the new hot setup for defense.    

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« Reply #26 on: July 11, 2005, 11:40:54 AM »
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Where do you rank the coach shotgun as a home defense weapon?
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Ah, nothing puts fear in the heart of an intruder like the sound of a pump shotgun jacking a round in the dark. It means only 1 of 2 things are going to happen next. He can run or die.
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home defense = mossberg 500 12ga with the plug out loaded with rifled slugs.
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#4 buck is the new hot setup for defense.


We haven't had a "gun thread" in a while. Hope these are still allowed.

I've made some quotes above - I find it rather sad that you guys feel the need to arm yourselves against external threat. The burning question is... what is it that you're so afraid of? OK, I know that criminals can get guns easily in the US - is that it? I lie in bed in my sleepy three horse town most nights, and the only sound I'll hear is jets overhead, on final approach to the busiest airport in the world. I like it - it reminds me that I'm free. If ever I felt that I had to turn my home into an armed fortress, that would be the day when I'd look for somewhere else to live.
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« Reply #27 on: July 11, 2005, 12:09:46 PM »
beetle..when will u understand...cops dont show up till after a crime has been commited on you and your family..especially in some small podunk craker town..

Those are great places to go rob people

No one is afraid..Its called PEACE OF MIND...


Id rather be caugth with then without.

As easy acces to guns..yes we do..So..if a guy breaks into your house..or assaults your loved ones..he has to have a gun to be a threat?..lmfao..Im sure you can defend your family with your quick wit.......errrrr

You bettr get a gun..lololololollo

gusn are the great equalizer..especialy for weaklings or women...liek tomato...Just think if she was able to defend herself against a large man twice her size..You think she coudl use her fist?..No..She should have at MINIMUM..Pepper spray..A sharp objetc..knife ect..Or.....be trained with a revolver...That will stop rapes...beatings..ect

And yes we know not all folks can handle the responsibilty of fire arms.. for defense...those folks are what we call.....part of the "natural selection" process
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« Reply #28 on: July 11, 2005, 12:20:20 PM »
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beetle..when will u understand...cops dont show up till after a crime has been commited on you and your family..especially in some small podunk craker town..
GC Maybe I'll never understand. I live in a "small podunk craker town", and have done for 23 years. No-one has a gun here, and there's never been a gun homicide since I've lived here. There are no monsters out there that I know of, and we rest easy at night.
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« Reply #29 on: July 11, 2005, 02:51:27 PM »
beetle... if I had the choice of living on your island and never having a gun again or living in the U.S. and having to use one several times in my life....

Given all the other plus and minus features of both countries...

I would at least 100 times still rather live in the U.S.   I can think of no feature of england that is better than the U.S. for me.

I will simply have to live in the place that I love to live and put up with the "fear".

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