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« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2005, 03:58:33 PM »
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Let me see if I can translate this.

I think he is saying Why are the US and UK not upset about Iran helping Iraq out now?(militarily)

The answer he is looking for I think is he wants someone to say we dont care about Iran helping because we want out at any price. Is that about right?


Maybe we figure the more Iranians dead now , the less we have to kill later.
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« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2005, 04:02:56 PM »
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Let me see if I can translate this.

I think he is saying Why are the US and UK not upset about Iran helping Iraq out now?(militarily)



yes this part is correct.

I think that fact that Iraq apply Iranian for help is briliant idea, however im wondering that there is not any single reaction in the news.

Thats why im asking for your opinion.

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« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2005, 04:03:28 PM »
once the heat starts to fly this world war will be over in about 4 hours.
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« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2005, 04:14:13 PM »
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yes this part is correct.

I think that fact that Iraq apply Iranian for help is briliant idea, however im wondering that there is not any single reaction in the news.

Thats why im asking for your opinion.


I think your right about it why it's not being hyped up. Should be a huge accomplishment to have their help. But its not because they are still on the "axis of evil" for trying to develop nukes. So you cant really threaten them one day and thank them the next.

Give it time. Usually take a little while for anything that actually is relevant to the situation to make it to the mainstream media.

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« Reply #19 on: July 10, 2005, 05:03:36 PM »
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yes this part is correct.

I think that fact that Iraq apply Iranian for help is briliant idea, however im wondering that there is not any single reaction in the news.

Thats why im asking for your opinion.


just my opinion but,

I think ANY help from neighboring countrys, especially one that's a formor enemy just goes further to legitimize Iraq's govt.  Any amount of that flys in the face of the so called insurgancy.

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« Reply #20 on: July 10, 2005, 06:28:11 PM »


There is no plan to remove American and British troops from Iraq. In fact, there are no American nor British troops in Iraq at this time.

The democratically elected government has everything under control. The insurgent attacks are steadily decreasing.
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« Reply #21 on: July 10, 2005, 09:37:36 PM »
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« Reply #22 on: July 10, 2005, 11:10:00 PM »
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well since a majority of terrorists we are fighting in Iraq are Iranians that doesnt seem like a bad Idea



Source please.

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« Reply #23 on: July 10, 2005, 11:17:36 PM »
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SECRET PLAN TO QUIT IRAQ
Sat Jul 09 2005 19:16:16 ET

BRITAIN and America are secretly preparing to withdraw most of their troops from Iraq - despite warnings of the grave consequences for the region, the SUNDAY MAIL in UK is reporting.

A secret paper written by UK Defence Secretary John Reid for Tony Blair reveals that many of the 8,500 British troops in Iraq are set to be brought home within three months, with most of the rest returning six months later.

The leaked document, marked Secret: UK Eyes Only, appears to fly in the face of Mr Blair and President Bush's pledges that Allied forces will not quit until Iraq's own forces are strong enough to take control of security.

If British troops pull out, other members of the Alliance are likely to follow. The memo says other international forces in Southern Iraq currently under British control will have to be handled carefully if Britain withdraws. It says they will not feel safe and may also leave.

Embarrassingly, the document says the Americans are split over the plan - and it suggests one of the reasons for getting British troops out is to save money. Mr Reid says cutting UK troop numbers to 3,000 by the middle of next year will save GBP 500million a year, though it will be 18 months before the cash comes through.

The document, Options For Future UK Force Posture In Iraq, is the first conclusive proof that preparations for a major withdrawal from Iraq are well advanced.

The British Government's public position is that UK troops will stay until newly trained Iraqi forces are ready to take control of security. Less than a fortnight ago, Mr Blair said it was 'vital' the US-led coalition stayed until Iraq stabilised, and Mr Bush endorsed his comments.

Mr Reid's memo, prepared for Mr Blair in the past few weeks, shows that in reality, plans to get them out - 'military drawdown,' as he puts it - are well advanced.

It says: 'We have a commitment to hand over to Iraqi control in Al Muthanna and Maysan provinces two of the four provinces under British control in Southern Iraq in October 2005 and in the other two, Dhi Qar and Basra, in April 2006.

Developing...


1) I have no problem with having a withdrawl plan ready. No sense waiting till the last minute.

2) Iraq is worse off now than it was before the elections over there.  Multiple bombings everyday, assasinations are common..etc

3) Only difference I really see is more Iraqi's are dying now. And that does not mean less American deaths, It just means the same amount of our troops and now more of theirs are being killed.

4) I hope we are not leaving soon because Iraq is still a mess. On the other hand, We might be most of the problem but I think if we pull out too early its just gonna be a civil war so I am not sure...

5)Brits you guys pulling out 8500 in 3 months? Tell me its not true. thanks


LMAO. This is along the lines of the Allies hanging the Poles out to dry after stringing them along for 6 years.

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« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2005, 11:19:36 PM »
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Source please.


read any english speaking news paper and it talks about Iranians wether they be govt intel types or jihadists crossing the border.  Same thing with syria.

It is no secret that the majority of the oposition fighters/organizers are not Iraqis.

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« Reply #25 on: July 10, 2005, 11:29:11 PM »
Sooner the British pull out the better, they never should of sent troops and followed Bush into that unjustified mess in the first place. Hopefully Australia won't send any.



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« Reply #26 on: July 11, 2005, 12:38:06 AM »
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Sooner the British pull out the better, they never should of sent troops and followed Bush into that unjustified mess in the first place. Hopefully Australia won't send any.



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« Reply #27 on: July 11, 2005, 01:35:46 AM »
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« Reply #28 on: July 11, 2005, 01:45:03 AM »
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So long as you see that and don't feed it.:D


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« Reply #29 on: July 11, 2005, 02:44:49 AM »
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