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Offline cpxxx

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« Reply #45 on: July 15, 2005, 09:48:03 PM »
There is a truth there Pongo.  Perhaps they have an innate understanding of what motivates them.  I think Islam or at least the version the come from the Arabs comes with a distaste for the infidel.

In Antoine de Saint-Exupery book 'Wind, Sand, and Stars'.  He describes how Arabs would often spit when they came in contact with Europeans.  Not so much in disgust at the people themselves but because they felt they were contaminated by being close to an infidel.

He alse describes a old Sheik who was loyal to the French but who suddenly one day murdered the French officers assigned to him.
Saint Ex speculated that the Sheik in coming to the end of his life realised that his association and dealings with the infidel might have compromised him for the next life. In attacking the French  he somehow purged his sin.

If you apply that kind of thinking to suicide bombers.  You could think they were somehow purging their contamination. Their Britishness compromised their religious principles. The fact that they may kill Muslims too wouldn't bother them. Those Muslims are contaminated too.

For the same reason maybe that is how a suicide bomber can drive up to a group of children accepting sweets from American soldiers and kill them all as happened earlier this week.

Al Qaeda is Arab in origin and perhaps what we seeing is a massive evil corruption of what St-Ex observed in the thirties.

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« Reply #46 on: July 15, 2005, 10:09:26 PM »
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Originally posted by Silat
And not mentioning it was exactly what most Christians did. :(

Those who are not Christian may disagree with you about there not being a Christian Jihad.

Let us take care of the fanatics here in America first.


  I`m afraid fanatic would have to be defined first of all.
  By whom?
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« Reply #47 on: July 15, 2005, 10:32:50 PM »
dont think so cp. I just think they feel that they are justified in engaging in war and that is the only war they have to engage in.

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« Reply #48 on: July 16, 2005, 07:07:29 AM »
hmm the muslim's i know dont respect what the suicide bobmber's do .
And this is from a muslim country , OMAN , the people i talk to are horrified.

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« Reply #49 on: July 16, 2005, 08:50:31 AM »
silat... no, let's not take care of the christian nuts first... let's take care of all of the nuts at the same time but let's allocate resources to the highest threat..   the muslims.

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« Reply #50 on: July 17, 2005, 12:29:37 AM »
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when was the last terrorist suicide bombing attack committed by a Christian in America.  
 


Gunny, the "best" thing that a suicide bomber is that they can't do it again.
I don't feel less of the Oklahoma Fed building terrorist attack just 'cause they weren't suicide bombers. McVay and his group are true cowards. Easy to kill others and go run and hide, but not when it comes to dying for their "cause."
It takes a fanatic to kill other innocent people in the name of a cause, it takes an even bigger fanatic to kill themselves deliberately in the attempted attack (not all suicide attacks are successful).
For us trying to lump the vast majority of peaceful muslims in the same group as the fanatic fraction might be the bigger crime in the long run. Nothing good will come out of the prejudice. Never has, never will.
We have far less to fear of the muslims than they do of us.
We have a means of destroying their very existence (right now, of our choosing) than they do of us.
They may hit us here or there, but we will survive as a nation with our way of life. The same cannot be said of them and their way of life.
We shouldn't act like we fear them.
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