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Offline rod367th

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Wow lots of whines about la7 and niki I Don't get it.
« on: July 14, 2005, 09:21:52 AM »
last night 1hr how la7 and niki dweeb newbie planes, of course most thos in conversation fly la7 and niki but complain others do.





  My k/d against niki and la7 our  36 kills to 4 deaths this tod. i have more kills of niki and la7 with il2 alone than all kills of me.



 So tell me again why la7 should be perked? Oh wait thats right guys who fly la7 don't want others to catch them :)

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« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2005, 09:29:57 AM »
I know what you mean. I'm no ace, not even a fair "stick" - but my KPD shows La is not a plane to be feared.

I worry more abou the good pilots, who tend to be in "off brand" planes.

As I see it, all the whining comes from 2 things --

1) If you don't get the merge right, and hit em before they run, the La will get away. If you are cognitively challenged enough to keep chasing a running La, it can be darn frustrating.

2) The Nik can turn well enough that a mediocre pilot can get a shot off, and the guns off both the Nik and the La can make you REALLY hurt if you make a mistake.


So both ways, these planes hurt those pilots who think they should be good enough to win a lot, but who dont fly well enough to kill quickly and stay out of the cone of fire.










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« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2005, 09:43:42 AM »
yea, im no ace either...yea i got more kills against both than they against me...but i still think la7 needs perked to limit useage...not its "uberleetness"

and no, i dont fly la7 or niki...
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« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2005, 10:08:44 AM »
No need to perk Nikis and Lalas. It'd be enough to compel guys using those fighters to wear a skin with big dweeb markings on wings and fuselage.
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« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2005, 10:38:40 AM »
plane performance comes at a price. Look at the ki-84 and zero. They had the best performance of there times. But they were made out of aluminum so they could get shot down with a few 50 cal rounds.. The La5fn was made out of untreated plywood and canvas. The La7 the same but it had a bit more aluminum in its design. Performance comes at a price.

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« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2005, 12:07:53 PM »
Dweeb is a way of life, not the plane you fly.  personally i dont fly la7s or n1ks but i still reserve the right:)

i dont understand either why people call others dweebs because of the plane they fly.  this behavior is all over the MA.  the funny thing is, i've noticed some people calling others dweebs for flying "so and so" plane, meanwhile they are flying to airbases and only vulching the runway while there is still an air to air battle going on, or running from a fair fight, ack hugging, or waiting for a few buddies to show up before engaging 1 plane. Not to mention fly the planes they are calling dweeb planes.

Granted la7 is better plane for the dweeb, but the real dweebs are those mentioned above.  











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« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2005, 12:17:49 PM »
Old news pluck.

Do like I do. Fly everything there is and shoot everything you can down. An LA7 is just another target.

Imagine what'd be like if there where no targets.

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« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2005, 12:26:43 PM »
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I know what you mean. I'm no ace, not even a fair "stick" - but my KPD shows La is not a plane to be feared.


The LA7 is most definatly a plane to be feared. Problem is most of those who fly it are not to be feared.

Like you said it's the guy behind the stick you need to worry about.  When I see a P40 in the area I don't think easy kill, I think caution. A newb isn't upping a p40 in the MA too often.

If you perk the LA7 the "deewbs" will just up the next non-perked plane they believe they can servive and get kills in. Then what, perk that plane too?

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« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2005, 12:37:04 PM »
Few steps towards a solution to the abundance of La7's in the MA:


1.  Have this site (forum link) & netaces.org prominently displayed on the MA's MOTD.  Have this pop up every time you log in.  It will get more players into the BB and into netaces.  This can only help them experience different planes, or at the very least help them gain the confidence to stick around and try in their La7/Nik/whatever instead of shoot & scooting.

2.  Have more people who constantly complain about the La7 or Niki stop wasting time complaining about it, and putting their time to good use by making guides to other planes.  Not the usual, "Mustang is a BnZ'er", but the "Mustang can be a BnZ'er but can also TnB and here are some tips for how to do it."

3.  More films in different planes from people who are sick and tired of seeing same planes.  Explain how you did what.

Follow these three steps for a few months and I'd bet you'd see more variety in plane choice, and more effort in fight attempts.
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Wow lots of whines about la7 and niki I Don't get it.
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2005, 12:39:28 PM »
Yes. Perk this, perk that, yet no one listens to me: PERK THE HURRICANES!!! Hey, even i can get kills in those... they must be *uber*....


Im not scared of LaLas. Unless they are flown by certain pilots. But then, id be scared what ever they fly.

Perk the pilots?

Seriously. La is one of the best overall performance planes, but the line perked - unperked *has* to be somewhere. So it was drawn above the La. Live with it.

And people will never stop calling others 'dweeb' and 'noob' and 'vulcher' and all kinds of other nice things. Human ego is a funny thing.

My experience in MA is, the way you treat other people, the way they treat you themselves. So I mainly ignore those whose attitude doesnt suit me. If I dont like those I fly with or against, I simply pick another fight. Or i log and see whats going on in H2H. You can have nice furball with good fights there as well. Works fine for me.

And the others, friend or foe, i get along with pretty good. Theres tons of class acts out there as well.
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« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2005, 12:40:16 PM »
I love the la7. I HO, run, spit and cuss in it. I enjoy letting a spit think I'm going to turn with him only to go screaming to the deck leaving him in the dust. Then to see him cry on ch200 just completes it all lol. I always tell them the wambulance is otw! It's a real hoot, you should all try it.
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« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2005, 01:00:12 PM »
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these planes hurt those pilots who **THINK** they should be good enough to win a lot, but who dont fly well enough to kill quickly and stay out of the cone of fire.



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« Reply #12 on: July 14, 2005, 01:01:25 PM »
oh, don't get me wrong, not complaining at all.  more of just commenting on what appears to be an old trend.  Just think if you are going to call someone a dweeb, better make sure you're not doing the exact same thing, or worse-lol

i don't care what anyone flies, im just here to have fun, shoot planes down, and enjoy a few good furballs.
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« Reply #13 on: July 14, 2005, 01:05:11 PM »
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I love the la7. I HO, run, spit and cuss in it. I enjoy letting a spit think I'm going to turn with him only to go screaming to the deck leaving him in the dust. Then to see him cry on ch200 just completes it all lol. I always tell them the wambulance is otw! It's a real hoot, you should all try it.


:rofl wambulance
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« Reply #14 on: July 14, 2005, 01:08:32 PM »
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I love the la7. I HO, run........


Holy Crap thats funny. :rofl

I haven't seen honesty as brutal since my 5 year old told the lady in front of us in line at the supermarket that she was really fat. And she was.

I like to do the same thig to the spit but I just extend a little bit then come back. Guess im glutton for punnishment.

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