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Offline StarOfAfrica2

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« Reply #45 on: July 22, 2005, 08:11:43 PM »
Flugwerk does not make many copies.  They make a FEW copies, and charge nearly 2 mil for them.  For a copy.  I know, I've drooled over them myself.  How many years of R&D do you think it took them to build one?  How many US politicians do you think would keep their jobs if they had to face their constituents who didnt get funded for this or that program, and tell them "I'm sorry, I had to appropriate 30 million this year to purchase, transport, and begin restoring a WWII fighter plane.  But it will all be worth it when it goes up in the museum!"

They are also restoring a 109 btw.  Links to pics on their website.

Oh, and I'm not arguing either way on the issue of parking or flying.  I can see both sides, but I dont have any money in the pot so my opinion is worthless on the matter.  I was just responding to the comment about Flugwerk making lots of copies of FWs.

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« Reply #46 on: July 22, 2005, 08:18:23 PM »
See Rule #4
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« Reply #47 on: July 22, 2005, 08:43:14 PM »
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Yes I "advocate the taking of private property by government any time the government so desires"



Why don't you run for office? I can't believe the things that are coming out of your face. Do you even pay attention to yourself?

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« Reply #48 on: July 22, 2005, 08:44:27 PM »
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By anyone's definition 12 is many.  


No... that would be wrong tool... I mean too.

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« Reply #49 on: July 22, 2005, 09:03:40 PM »
Yakovlev also made a new batch of Yak-3s with Allison engines (Yak-3UA) in the 1990s using the plans, tools, dies and fixtures of the original. They are available on the civilian market, and I'm sure Yakovlev would build more if someone wanted to buy.



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« Reply #50 on: July 22, 2005, 09:04:13 PM »
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No... that would be wrong tool... I mean too.

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12 warbirds is not many to you? How big a market do you think there is? We're not talking about marshmallows here.
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« Reply #51 on: July 22, 2005, 09:05:24 PM »
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Why don't you run for office? I can't believe the things that are coming out of your face. Do you even pay attention to yourself?

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I don't care what you believe. Yes, perhaps I should run for office.

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« Reply #52 on: July 22, 2005, 09:57:54 PM »
Until the recent Supreme Court decision the government just couldn't decide to grab someone's private property. The private property had to be needed for a pretty narrowly defined "public use".

A museum would be stretching "public use" pretty far, although the Court's recent (and IMO incorrect) decision on the 5th Amendment stretched public use farther than it has ever been stretched.

If you run, don't count on my vote. I can already see  that won't happen.

The truth of it is that the government doesn't care a whit about old warbirds. There'd be very few to see at all if it was left to the government. But, like most governments, if a privately owned item appeals to the government, they'll devise a way to steal it from someone before doing the work to make one of their own.
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« Reply #53 on: July 22, 2005, 10:03:55 PM »
See Rule #5
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« Reply #54 on: July 22, 2005, 11:33:58 PM »
As opposed to the "we see it, we like it, we steal it" folks you appear to support.

Hmmmm... 14 posts. This is a shade account for what previous name?

I wonder who was recently banned.
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« Reply #55 on: July 23, 2005, 12:06:43 AM »
Too many idiots post on here nowadays...

idiots with stupid opinions that are hell bent on trolling.
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« Reply #56 on: July 23, 2005, 07:32:34 AM »
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As opposed to the "we see it, we like it, we steal it" folks you appear to support.


You mean the guys currently in the SC? I didn't make the court ruling.

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« Reply #57 on: July 23, 2005, 07:33:32 AM »
See Rule #4
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« Reply #58 on: July 23, 2005, 08:00:12 AM »
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Speak for yourself. And do it in the OT forums where you belong.


I think Bodhi is as qualified as anyone to post in this section, certainly more than you. Unless of course you make your living restoring and maintaining warbirds.

And it is advocating the government taking private property it is not entitled to that is off topic. Take a hike to the O'Club. You belong there.
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« Reply #59 on: July 23, 2005, 08:09:21 AM »
See Rule #5
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