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Offline g00b

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What is the deal with Glocks?
« on: July 16, 2005, 12:11:19 PM »
Just curious why I continually see people recommending Glocks? My local range has about 50 handguns to rent and I have tried almost all of them. The Glocks are consistently some of the least accurate and have horrible action. Is it just because they are used alot and probably don't get the TLC they need? They seem sloppy and cheap. On the other hand, the other guns probably get the same amount of attention and seem to work fine.

Normally I can shoot sub 2 inch groups at 7 meters with my Ruger MKII with 6 7/8" slab bull barrel.



Amazingly my IZH-46M olympic target air pistol is even more accurate, and I can tag paintballs at 20 yrds fairly consistently.

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So I don't think it's a lack of practice or skill. I just don't understand the attraction to the Glocks?

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P.S. Anyone know of any accuracy enhancing mods for the MKII?

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« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2005, 12:15:11 PM »
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I just don't understand the attraction to the Glocks?


Me either.  I like a weapon to not be butt ugly on top of a good shooter.

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« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2005, 12:34:56 PM »
They are just a Fad gun.  Take a look back and you can easily pick out the Fad guns, even though they might not be the best.
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« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2005, 12:42:02 PM »
then just dont buy them

i used to have one and it was just fine for me, but then guns are not one of my interest... i just point and shoot. no drooling or fiddeling.

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What is the deal with Glocks?
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2005, 01:50:02 PM »
The last time I shot a glock 19, I had a 1.5" group at 7 yards. I was able to get closer to 1.25" with the Sig. With a match colt .45 I can get less than 1" groups.

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« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2005, 01:55:36 PM »
Don't expect a rental gun to be incredibly accurate.  It's a standard model that probably has recieved some bad treatment.
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« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2005, 02:54:23 PM »
from what my friend (a police auxillary) says... they are reliable, easy, and somewhat idiot-proof.

basically a point and click gun, that is perfunctionary. nothing great, just really really easy to use.


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« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2005, 02:58:40 PM »
I've heard (and experienced) just the opposite though.
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« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2005, 04:36:48 PM »
Ok... they are accurate enough... most people can't shoot that well anyhow...  they are cheap and they reliable and sorta foolproof... they are high capacity and fairly light and easy to dissesemble and clean.   They are an all bussines kind of handgun for guys like nielsen who don't particularly care for handguns.

I don't own one.  Don't see any need for em for me but..... they perform better (in most categories) than some of the guns that I do own and enjoy.  

Sorta like cars and motorcycles... there is more to it than just utility and hitting most of the performanc marks.

A person would not be badly served if they bought one... they wouldn't have much to complain about.... not much to care about either.... like I said... perfect gun for someone like nielsen or someone who used it for backup for a long gun.

They are hard to get atached to.

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« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2005, 05:09:04 PM »
Thats why you just buy an UZI for self defense.



accuracy not that important. one of the 100rnds you squirt off in that second gotta hit. ;)

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« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2005, 05:11:10 PM »
I dont mind guns lazs.. sorry if you got that idea.
I dont care for them either way acutally.

I had one as a sidearm throughout OC school and when i served in the navy. Had it a few years after i left too when i was in the reserves. Shot it alot and wore it loaded most of the time when i was on watch. Ligth gun but still annoying to carry around in tight spaces.. it bumps into everything when on your belt.

Never failed me except when shooting blanks.. it jammed alot then. We found out that it was due to wrong kind of blanks made for the MP5.

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« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2005, 05:27:21 PM »
Handguns are a personal opinion type of critter. You find a brand or model you like and enjoy it. Some folks think Glocks are the scourge of the earth and others like them quite a bit. I'm one of the ones that like them and have 4 at this time. On the other hand  also have several of other brands to include Colt, S&W and Ruger. As long as it works reliably, hits where you are aiming and is of sufficeint caliber to get the job done use it.
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« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2005, 06:11:58 PM »
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Glocks are the scourge of the earth


I wasn't going to be the first one to say it.  :aok
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« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2005, 06:14:24 PM »
7 meters?  Why not just put your gun against the paper?  You can spit on the target in 1" groups at that range.

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« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2005, 06:39:59 PM »
putting aside the boxy shape, plastic feel, and generally butt-ugly appearance-  and thats a lot to put aside- the main thing to me is that the angle of the grip to the barrel is just wrong.

ya, I know.  I remember when they came out and they made all the claims of ergonomically superior, more natural grip, blah blah.  maybe it's even true, maybe it is a better way to go, it's still wrong.

at close distances (the kind where you'd use a pistol) you should be able to pick a pistol up, point it at what you want to hit and have the bullet end up reasonable close to where you intended, without aiming.

pick up one of those dummy rounds with the laser in them (intended for bore-sighting I'd imagine) and try it out.  a dart board from across your living room works well.  I've only had the rounds for 9mm and .45LC and have tried it with a S&W 6906, Ruger Vaquero,  browning hi-power, and a glock  maybe a dozen or so tries with each gun.

except for the glock all where solidly within the triple ring on the dart board, most within 3 inches of center, the glock was off the board for the first 2 or three times, better on the last few but still crap.

it's fine for accurate when you take the time to aim carefully, but it never feels natural or a fluid action to aim and fire one.  I have better groups with most other guns but not a huge difference.

I think it mostly comes down to the fact that I fired a lot of rounds through a lot of different guns before I ever touched a glock, it's different from what I'm used to so it's wrong.

most of the people I know who like the glocks started using them when they were fairly new to shooting pistols.  I have even met a few guys who would call it their preferred gun, all three of them had a glock as their first pistol, and learned to shoot on it.

I'd imagine those guys get the same feel from a 'regular gun' that I get when I pick one of those ugly 9's that look like it was made by Mattel.