Author Topic: Dog vs. Cat intelligence (Read 1124 times)

Shane · « **Reply #30 on:** July 20, 2005, 02:56:47 PM »

i have active x set for "prompt" and i always deny unless it's some ***'d site that i want to use that "needs" it.

Skuzzy · « **Reply #31 on:** July 20, 2005, 03:02:51 PM »

Shane, you could just put those sites in the trusted site zone, then you would not have to mess with it again.

Now, here is some irony for you. ActiveX is the delivery mechanism of choice for most spyware/malware programs. McAfee's Virus Scanner requires ActiveX to be enabled in order to run. Also, Intuit's programs also require ActiveX to be enabled to use the updater.

Poor form. Poor and lazy coding practices.

Chairboy · « **Reply #32 on:** July 20, 2005, 03:09:09 PM »

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Originally posted by Shane
i have active x set for "prompt" and i always deny unless it's some ***'d site that i want to use that "needs" it.

Shane has the right idea. You get the security of not running activex unexpectedly with the flexibility to enable it on demand. Skuzzy's approach gives little (if any) extra security unless it is to protect the user from making poor decisions.

In some ways, it may be less secure if, upon encountering a broken website of some sort, a user just turns off ALL security to get it to work instead of realizing it's that one component that's switched off that needs to be altered.

I've seen plenty of people just turn their firewall off to play games, for example, instead of creating specific rules. Why? Because it's easier, even though they are placing themselves at risk. Is is the fault of the game? Is it the fault of the user for installing the firewall? Not really. The root cause of the problem is the manufacturer of the firewall making it too restrictive at the cost of actual realized security.

Another example of the above, when a company changes its security policy so that all passwords must look like abD!fF#098 (case sensitive) plus requires the user to change it every few weeks. Actual security goes down because more and more users will resort to physically writing the password down on paper.

Just my $.02 based on years of experience in the computer security industry.

Skuzzy · « **Reply #33 on:** July 20, 2005, 04:15:19 PM »

Actually Chairboy, IE gives you a warning about having ActiveX disabled when you hit a site that uses it and you have it disabled.
Most people find it friendlier and less chance of pressing the wrong button as there is no button to press.

I found most people will tire of the popup asking if it is ok or not and end up turning on ActiveX again to avoid the popup.

Maverick · « **Reply #34 on:** July 20, 2005, 07:13:47 PM »

I use the prompt to confirm that the active-x is set to keep them from running. The prompt may be tedious but I like knowing the security is in place.

Boroda · « **Reply #35 on:** July 20, 2005, 08:06:13 PM »

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Originally posted by Chairboy
I've read that in WWII, dogs in the Soviet Union were trained to run under tanks, then in combat, they attached satchel charges and had them execute their training on german Tigers & Panzers.

My Father gave puppies from his dobermann ***** (female dog) to such a training school in 1941. Intelligent dogs were trained to drag anti-tank mines under the tracks of German tanks. Some of them made it up to 3-4 times. For blowing up 3 German tanks a human could earn a Golden Star of a Hero... But humans usually had to throw 4 grenades tied together onto a tank, with no chance to survive an explosion at a short distance

BTW, how do you expect a dog to detonate a charge under a tank?...

Chairboy · « **Reply #36 on:** July 20, 2005, 09:18:37 PM »

Timer or magnetic fuze? Burnng fuse?

Hangtime · « **Reply #37 on:** July 20, 2005, 09:25:41 PM »

was the dog circumcised?

Chairboy · « **Reply #38 on:** July 20, 2005, 09:30:53 PM »

Before? dunno. Afterwards? Most certainly.

Boroda · « **Reply #39 on:** July 20, 2005, 09:38:41 PM »

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Originally posted by Hangtime
was the dog circumcised?

Isn't it a pure violence against animals?! PETA PETA PETA!!!

I am disappointed with Western "animal violence" attitude. I still can't imagine a Dobermann with uncut ears and, especially, with a long, rat-like tail

That beautifull dogs don't deserve it. Tails are cut when they are blind, with an unsharpened knife. How about circumcision when human kids are still almost unconscious and will never remember it? Hang, I am all for good attitude for humans, after that we may try to care about some animals.

How about a Spaniel with a long tail? They have their tails cut because if they don't - they'll get wounded by sharp swamp grass. I had a Russian Spaniel, and he was absolutely happy with his short tail.

Hangtime · « **Reply #40 on:** July 20, 2005, 10:13:27 PM »

LOL.. ok.. ok.. I killed the hamster when I was 5.. wasn't my fault the damn thing couldn't fly. Hell, I was 5; I thought reindeer could fly.. shoulda been no great feat fer a hamster.

In fact, it wasn't. It flew pretty good, considering. Couldn't land to save his ass.. literally.

(what's killin me here, is he still don't get it)

Flit · « **Reply #41 on:** July 20, 2005, 10:29:11 PM »

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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Warning: That site will put about 23 tracking cookies in your browser. Best run Adaware if you have clicked on it.

There is also some suspect ActiveX controls on that page.

Got 20 myself... thanks for the heads-up

Vulcan · « **Reply #42 on:** July 20, 2005, 11:48:18 PM »

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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Actually Chairboy, IE gives you a warning about having ActiveX disabled when you hit a site that uses it and you have it disabled.
Most people find it friendlier and less chance of pressing the wrong button as there is no button to press.

I found most people will tire of the popup asking if it is ok or not and end up turning on ActiveX again to avoid the popup.

I have activex, and let my firewall sort out the messy stuff

SaburoS · « **Reply #43 on:** July 21, 2005, 01:00:10 AM »

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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Internet Explorer->Tools->Internet Options,

select the "Security" tab. Select the "Internet" zone and hit the "Custom" button. Scroll down and you will see it.

Might as well default the rest of the zones while you are here, after you turn off ActiveX. Just select each of the zones and press the "Default" button to reset each zone to its unique security settings.

In the "Trusted" zone, you may have to add Microsoft so the auto updater will work. Just select that zone, uncheck the requirement for secure connection, and enter '*.microsoft.com' and press the "Add" button.
This will allow Microsoft's WEB site to run under the "Trusted" zone. You will see it in IE, lower right porting of status bar.

Skuzzy,
Is it possible for you to post that as a sticky?

Skuzzy · « **Reply #44 on:** July 21, 2005, 07:31:18 AM »

I added a more detailed write-up to the "More Hints and Tips" post in the Technical Support forum.