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Offline elc7367b

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« on: July 22, 2005, 08:41:07 AM »
I have to disagree with several of my squad mates and many of my countrymen (Bish) about the numbers situation.  True it can be very frustrating to be numericaly overwhelmed in what seems to be a more often than not situation.

I for one, like the challenge.  It does at times get old but in order to counter the challenge different strategies need to be employed.  It gets old trying to up from a capped field.  Since one side may be at a numerical disadvantage, measures need to be taken to minimize that disadvantage.  This means, in my opinion. upping from a field thats further away from the main battle.  It means spending time climbing to altitude to give you a little advantage.  This herein lies part of the problem.  In our "immediate gratification" mentality, there are few that want to do that.  

I understand that some people may only have a limited amount of online time to play the game and that doesnt fit into their playing style.  But when fighting at a numerical disadvantage different tactics need to be employed.  It also requires teamwork.  I am ready to join missions that others create.  I am not a mission planner, I am a mission follower.  I have not seen a large amount of cohesiveness displayed amongst the Bish.  Everyone seems to want to fight their own battle.  Again that is understandable for each person pays their money to play their way.

I call on all Bish who read this to respond back if you are interested in working together to counter the numerical disadvantage.  Lets have squads work together with various roles to achieve a common objective.  We may not win the war but if we focused on certain areas we can win our own "little" wars.  This tactic was used to much success by the Rooks when they started their Sunday joint operations or whatever it was called.  There are several squads with large numbers that if combined and work together can make a major dent.  There are also smaller squads that can either join in or create diversionary strikes or create screens to help the main push succeed.

Maybe what I am looking for will materialize in the forthcoming TOD.  What makes this game interesting for me may not be interesting for the others.  

In conclusion, any Bish that are interested in joint squad ops speak up.  Rather than complain about the numbers (In war numbers are more often than not equal) lets work together to devise a strategy that can work.

Well those are my thoughts, I am open for suggestions.  Thanks for reading.

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« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2005, 09:18:36 AM »
Numerical disadvantages?

You better grab some Spits and Hurricanes!:D



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« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2005, 09:57:59 AM »
If you actually try to fight the red guys instead of only hitting undefended fields you might find you can stop the other country's toolshedders quite easily.

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« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2005, 10:11:14 AM »
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If you actually try to fight the red guys instead of only hitting undefended fields you might find you can stop the other country's toolshedders quite easily.


Wait a minute! You actually want us to go looking for the enemy?!?!?!

You are MAD, just MAD I say!:eek:

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« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2005, 10:27:35 AM »
I know.


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« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2005, 10:27:48 AM »
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Wait a minute! You actually want us to go looking for the enemy?!?!?!

You are MAD, just MAD I say!:eek:


Why do you think they turned "Killshooter" on? So the Bish couldn't attack each other. :D
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« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2005, 10:41:09 AM »
All right, please, enough of the sophomoric humor.  I attempted to open a discussion about concerns I have heard.  I ask that you respect that and if the call for answers doesnt pertain to you then please leave it alone.
 

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« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2005, 10:43:40 AM »
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All right, please, enough of the sophomoric humor.  I attempted to open a discussion about concerns I have heard.  I ask that you respect that and if the call for answers doesnt pertain to you then please leave it alone.
 

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I gotta agree with you. Keep killshooter on!

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« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2005, 11:04:58 AM »
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All right, please, enough of the sophomoric humor.  I attempted to open a discussion about concerns I have heard.  I ask that you respect that and if the call for answers doesnt pertain to you then please leave it alone.
 

Thanks

Muttman


Sorry Mutt, but a lot of us just see these discrussion as rather pointless. I know I do. There are at least 3-4 threads right now on this subject that to me amount to a whole lot of sour grapes. I am speaking from a Bish point of view also. Sure, we got rolled the last 3 maps. So what! Sure there are a lot of fair weather pilots on the Bish side right now. What are you gonna do about that? Yeah, a few high profile Bish squads changed sides lately, oh well.

I just dont see it as a problem that a little patients won't resolve. Last night the sides where relatively balanced and it was a good nights for fights.

If the Tool Sheaders and the Base Capturers on the Bish are getting frustrated because they can't have "their" fun then I guess they now know how some of us feel when they interfere with "our" fun.

HiTech, here is my suggestion. It ain't broke, don't fix it!

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« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2005, 11:26:51 AM »


:rolleyes:

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« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2005, 11:27:34 AM »
hey muttman,
just look for Spaz0 or BCool, and the 490th would be all about it.  

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« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2005, 11:27:34 AM »
hey muttman,
just look for Spaz0 or BCool, and the 490th would be all about it.  

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« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2005, 11:39:36 AM »
Actually my joshing is a result of the evolution of the game. It would appear the younger group of players have never heard of playing as a team. Other than an occasional mission being thrown up in someones country everybody goes about their own business. 80 self neamed( wannabe?) generals per country in the arena per night confirm that. In olden days, or as those without English in school would say, back in the day, squad leaders would get together with other squad leaders in their country and work together as a team to accomplish certain goals and/or objectives. This might go on for a whole month (read tour). It promoted team play and was a whole lot of fun for all.

So what's changed? Just like the cheerleaders standing on the street corner with buckets asking for free money (like the "will work for food" beggars) iso having a car wash or some other money making venture to earn the money they want (need?) it's so much easier to come to the BBS and whine about "the numbers are off".

Suggestion...have the squad's get together and have some fun....

Oh yeah, IMHO the Army really messed up when they came up with the slogan "An Army of One" because it makes young'ns think they can do it all by themselves....sorry it don't work that way. In fact, the only guy you wouldn't want in a foxholl with you is someone braver than you. Other than that the more the merrier, and if you keep a low profile they'll be looking at the other guys while you pop em.

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« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2005, 11:50:54 AM »
No offence intended Clifra Jones, but if you feel this discussion is rather pointless, why bother to even reply.  I am not here to complain, I am not here to whine, I am here to see if anyone is interested in trying something different.

I am not here to cross wits with anyone and if I find the majority of the replies to be that way I will be through with this and ask HTC to close the thread.  I am dissapointed in a lot of the attacks that take place on the boards, especially when someone attempts to do something they consider constructive.  

To all those that think this is pointless and dont care, why bother replying at all.  On second thought, to those that  the last sentence applies to forget it because your input is not asked for.  To those seriously interested thanks for your response.  

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« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2005, 11:56:16 AM »