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Offline humble

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« Reply #45 on: July 27, 2005, 05:54:23 PM »
1st...

"missions" are lame to begin with and probably are the biggest reason the MA sucks anyway.

2nd...

As stated above, you can see em in dar....

3rd....

Scramble a couple tempests on cap early "duh"....even a 262 isnt gonna ignore a high tempest and swoop the heavies more than once...

Your getting wrapped around the axel about something really trivial. Next time run a dual launch with a CAP....if the area is clear they can auger and grab a mission bird...or continue as escort.

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« Reply #46 on: July 27, 2005, 06:07:05 PM »
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AkAk, on the other hand, never whines. At the altitude where he spends his time, he's lucky to manage a wheeze. :p



Hey, that's not my fault.  Bojo claims the thinner air does wonders for his skin and what Bojo wants, Bojo gets.



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« Reply #47 on: July 27, 2005, 08:32:07 PM »
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Offline Xargos

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« Reply #48 on: July 27, 2005, 09:20:55 PM »
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If you´re taking risperdal for paranoia you still have ways to go in wonderful world of meds.

Try one of those ol´school-do-it-all-monkey-dope meds, you don´get much of a "hit" from those risperdals, do you?

Meds are supposed to be fun!


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« Reply #49 on: July 28, 2005, 01:11:11 AM »
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AkAk, on the other hand, never whines. At the altitude where he spends his time, he's lucky to manage a wheeze. :p
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« Reply #50 on: July 28, 2005, 04:19:18 AM »
Hey, if spying causes a big furball, im all for it. Its almost impossible to find an even fight these days. Either its a huge horde of my own guys or a huge horde of enemy. Ill take anything that can help direct 2 forces towards each other.

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« Reply #51 on: July 28, 2005, 07:22:53 AM »
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« Reply #52 on: July 28, 2005, 07:24:13 AM »
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Hey, if spying causes a big furball, im all for it. Its almost impossible to find an even fight these days. Either its a huge horde of my own guys or a huge horde of enemy. Ill take anything that can help direct 2 forces towards each other.

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« Reply #53 on: July 28, 2005, 09:39:43 AM »
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Hey, if spying causes a big furball, im all for it. Its almost impossible to find an even fight these days. Either its a huge horde of my own guys or a huge horde of enemy. Ill take anything that can help direct 2 forces towards each other.



No offense. It sounds to me like you only want to hide in the numbers of a furball? There is absolutely nothing wrong with that but I don't think spying is going to do much along those lines.

I don't know how many of you have tuned the noob channel but if it's on they automatically become unknowing spies as their continuous chatter tells everyone in the AH world what they plan on doing. Like bringing goons to a field or buffing it, etc. Question. How many of you go and stop them? Does it really matter?

BTW, the reason some and I mean some, NOE missions get through is a direct result of a limitation of the game. If you happen to be at 30k overhead Anchorage you can see Denali over 300 miles away. Ok , its a big target but 300 miles? Max dot range is what? 6K, 7K? 3-4 miles?  
In the airline industry we use terms like A2/3 which means the ceiling is above 2000 feet and visibility is 3 miles. There means the arrival area is clear. Some airports have higher minimum requirements like A5/5 due to approach restrictions. So think about being at 8-10k and being able to see, from 10 miles, some NOE group. If 4 planes were spread out over 3-5 miles or so they could cover a very large area of movement. Now think about the current visibility of one plane being 4 miles max. He can cover an area 8 miles wide by 4 miles deep. Put a couple of planes trying to get some alt away from the enemy and how many NOE missions do you think are going to get through? It only takes one plane to see the group.

IMHO an NOE run has a less than 50/50 chance of getting thru undetected without having to use spies. That it, unless you're rear area field, off in some remote part of the map that no one is flying near.

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« Reply #54 on: July 28, 2005, 10:11:07 AM »
Max dot range is what? 6K, 7K? 3-4 miles?

I remember hearing/seeing that its 12 miles ... I could be wrong, but I have spotted goons on the ground (black dot) from a long way away when between 5-10K alt.

Like u said ... NOE is a 50/50 chance ... thats what makes them so much fun ... when you actually arrive on target without be noticed ... it's a hoot.
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« Reply #55 on: July 28, 2005, 10:45:03 AM »
We get our NOE missions through about 60-70% of the time. Usually, a few will up as we "pop up" to get high enough to deliver ordnance and show on radar.

Never used spies. I suppose you could use them to verify an NOE route was clear, or to deliver false reports as to whether an NOE mission existed, or where it actually was.

Not announcing missions won't help avoid spies, unless you also avoid making and posting a mission. Anyone who is spying will surely look at the mission tab and see what missions are posted.

I find spying in the GAME to be in poor taste and to show a lack of sportsmanship. Sure, there were spies in real war. But this ain't real war, and the game makes spying a lot easier than it was, with no real penalty.
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« Reply #56 on: July 28, 2005, 11:04:47 AM »
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Yea, guess I`ll have to, but I had my heart set on that super double naught decoder ring.

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« Reply #57 on: July 28, 2005, 02:02:11 PM »
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No offense. It sounds to me like you only want to hide in the numbers of a furball? There is absolutely nothing wrong with that but I don't think spying is going to do much along those lines.

 


I like a good furball because its non stop action..i dont hide. I dont care if i get shot down. Its just fun. Sorry if i dont find unopposed, mind numbing missions to some remote base "Fun".

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« Reply #58 on: July 28, 2005, 03:11:53 PM »
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Hey, if spying causes a big furball, im all for it. Its almost impossible to find an even fight these days. Either its a huge horde of my own guys or a huge horde of enemy. Ill take anything that can help direct 2 forces towards each other.


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