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Offline Manedew

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« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2005, 04:24:35 PM »
Maybe the 'west' is starting to realize what it will mean if terrorist start attacking 'soft' targets

in US it has only been WTC and Pentagon.... Arguelably both military targets.  'Hard' targets, targets with secuirty measures.

Russia has seen attacks on Elementry School's

Huuuge diffrance......

Mass transit lies somewhere inbetween, maybe some minimal secuirty.

Russians simply have experiance dealing with 'soft' target attacks like schools....  maybe the artical is highlighting such things?

in hindsight, thier meathods may be extreame, but this is the west's frist modren taste of 'soft' target terrorist attacks

just a fact of life.... you can't protect the soft targets, so how do you deal with them?

Russia has had too,  the 'west' really hasn't...... Mass transit is softish, but more guardable than a true 'soft' target like schools.

maybe that is something the 'west' has learned from Russia over these transit attacks.

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« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2005, 05:14:06 AM »
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Originally posted by BUG_EAF322
Oh and thats what u read in ur paper i guess.

I never mentioned it btw.

All here was just focussed on the victims.

Oh and..... i think ur country belongs to the west side also. ( with a french german pain in the prettythang attitude)
Now just start to accept it.

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I read http://www.inosmi.ru and http://www.inopressa.ru that provide translations from Western press, mostly from newspapers and magazines that I thought are respectfull sources, like The Times, Washington Post etc.

The problem is that our "right liberals" use the same rhethorics to blame "Evil Putin's regime" (tm) of everything. Their anty-Russian hysteria is making me sick.

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« Reply #17 on: July 27, 2005, 05:24:16 AM »
About "soft targets": it didn't start in Beslan or Nord-Ost theatre. It have begun in 1995, when a Chechen gang assaulted a small town of Budennovsk in Stavropol region (Cossack lands). They started with shooting everyone in the streets and then took hostages in a local maternity hospital... At that time Yeltsin's gang of morons have let them go and even provided terrorists with buses to Chechnya...

Then - Kizlyar attack, again failure, then - infamy of "peace treaty" with terrorists in 1996...

Then - 1999 invasion into Dagestan, where Russian Army mostly supported local militants fighting Chechen invaders with artillery and air support.

It resulted in apartment-house bombings, 4 explosions killing over 500 civilians sleeping in their beds at night.

It's why second Chechen war began.

Now we have anti-terrorist measures against such bombings - all apartment blocks in Msk have steel doors with code-locks, basements and attics are checked, most of the transport entering Msk is checked for explosives...

Then were Nord-Ost and subway bombings. I don't know how they prevent new subway bombings, maybe they simply have a huge network of informers inside terrorist organisations. I think it's the only way to stop such things. Now they plan to have TV cameras in every subway car, but AFAIK in London they already have such stuff and it didn't help. But it should help against installing a time-bomb in a car late at night when subway is almost empty.

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« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2005, 05:26:48 AM »
Bordoda, furby is right.  The article is trying to justify the shoot to kill policy by the experiences russia and israel has had with suicide bombers.
"Willy's gone and made another,
Something like it's elder brother-
Wing tips rounded, spinner's bigger.
Unbraced tailplane ends it's figure.
One-O-nine F is it's name-
F is for futile, not for fame."

Offline DREDIOCK

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« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2005, 08:22:06 AM »
My opinion. Cop tries to talk to you and you run. Copt yells for you to stop and you still run and cop shoots you...oh well

As I beleive a Russian once said

"Death can solve many problems. No more man. No more problem."

when it comes to terrorists or potential terrorists. I think its the perfect perscription
Death is no easy answer
For those who wish to know
Ask those who have been before you
What fate the future holds
It ain't pretty