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« Reply #30 on: July 28, 2005, 10:30:21 AM »
She is in office for two reasons.

One the republicans in California are idiots. They keep putting people up agaist here that can not win in CALI. Not pro life republican will get elected in this state.


Two: She is the poster child for "Cali lib".

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« Reply #31 on: July 28, 2005, 10:37:04 AM »
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She is in office for two reasons.

One the republicans in California are idiots. They keep putting people up agaist here that can not win in CALI. Not pro life republican will get elected in this state.


Two: She is the poster child for "Cali lib".


While I agree that there has been no real vialble Republican challenger to this pile of vociferous protoplasm I think the real idiots are the ones that voted FOR her instead.
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« Reply #32 on: July 28, 2005, 10:46:56 AM »
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"I intend to offer at least one amendment, which would put dangerous and destructive .50 caliber military sniper rifles in the same category as weapons such as machine guns and sawed-off shotguns.

These extremely powerful sniper rifles are powerful enough to bring down airplanes and can fire a bullet a mile and penetrate a brick wall. They are for sale virtually anywhere, even at gun shows with no background checks. If this bill passes, these potential terrorist weapons would continue to be for sale with virtual blanket liability protection.”


Sounds pretty sensible to me! :D


Skydancer,

DiFi has never seen a firearm (except for the one's carried by her bodyguards) that she liked, and the above is a lie. I have purchased firearms in 3 different states and in all of them I had to have proof of residence, a drivers license, and go through a background check. In two I've also had to have Sheriff's permission and go through a "waiting period." No Barrett has ever been used in a criminal act, and terrorists have plenty of illegal channels through which to obtain illegally imported automatic weapons which are far more useful to them. I've fired the Barrett, it's huge, has a whale of a kick, and as Virgil mentioned, takes a lot of getting used to.

What Ms. Feinstein is doing, is exactly the same methodology she followed with the thankfully now defunct "assault weapons ban." Starting with a big ugly gun she knows she can gin-up fear over, associating it with a popular cause (i.e. anti-terrorism), playing to public ignorance in the cities, suburbs, and the media regarding guns, gun purchasing, gun crime, and terrorist methodology. The resulting bill has nothing to do with preventing terrorism, and everything to do with DiFi's desire to end legal private firearms ownership in the USA.

Imagine if you will a politician in the UK who hated motorbikes, thought they were a danger to the public and desperately wanted to ban them. Imagine him going after the biggest, meanest, most barely street-legal superbike on the market. He would tell the public how this bike could be used by criminals and terrorists to easily outpace police, how it was really a dangerous "racing bike" how anyone could buy one online without any serious checks. How they were totally unnecessary to the general public and had no "legitimate transport use" and looked threatening. Then he would press for a ban on all bikes "in that category" That's exactly the methodology employed here.

Now personally I could care less about motorbikes, I don't own one, I don't need one, why should you? They are dangerous! So the "Superbike ban" sounds sensible to me. Let's pass it. People who insist on having these two wheeled menaces can still buy a moped or a scooter, and they'll get you around.

There is no crisis with the Barrett that is being responded to, the real problem is DiFi doesn't like guns and knows it plays well to her crunchy constituency.

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« Reply #33 on: July 28, 2005, 10:56:37 AM »
At least at one time, Fienstien owned a gun herself, as did her husband. But THEY needed a gun for their own protection. She also once waved the muzzle of a so called "assault weapon" around a room full of people, while showing everyone how "evil" it was. So not only did she own a gun and try to deny the rights of others to own one, but she is so ignorant as to point a gun she knew nothing at all about around at a room full of people. Maybe ignorant is too kind. More like arrogant and stupid.
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« Reply #34 on: July 28, 2005, 11:01:10 AM »
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While I agree that there has been no real vialble Republican challenger to this pile of vociferous protoplasm I think the real idiots are the ones that voted FOR her instead.



I was trying to be nice and not call the cali libs idiots.... ;) but yeah your right Mav!

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« Reply #35 on: July 28, 2005, 11:03:41 AM »
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At least at one time, Fienstien owned a gun herself, as did her husband. But THEY needed a gun for their own protection. She also once waved the muzzle of a so called "assault weapon" around a room full of people, while showing everyone how "evil" it was. So not only did she own a gun and try to deny the rights of others to own one, but she is so ignorant as to point a gun she knew nothing at all about around at a room full of people. Maybe ignorant is too kind. More like arrogant and stupid.



I am fairly sure she has gotten members of her staff concealed carry permits, when she oposes them for the general public, I think she even got one of them a waiver to own a machine gun, but I can't remember were I read it so. Who knows.

if true though it just goes to show you how she feels about the common american.

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« Reply #36 on: July 28, 2005, 11:16:48 AM »
She's not at all unlike Sarah Brady, who was caught trying to avoid the laws she fought to get applied to everyone, in order to purchase a firearm for her son. Typical of the anti gun crowd. Like the large number of anti gun celebrities who hire body guards, because THEIR body is more important than YOUR body, and YOU have no right to arm yourself for your own protection.
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« Reply #37 on: July 28, 2005, 11:19:52 AM »
Also, Feinstein's statements are directly contradicted by the gun laws of her own state, to whit:

Transfer or sale of all firearms must be processed with a California gun dealer`s license. An application for transfer must be made with the gun dealer before any firearm may be sold or transferred. This application contains a description of the buyer or transferee and of the firearm. A copy is sent by the dealer to the California Department of Justice and the local police chief or sheriff. The dealer may be charged a fee up to $14 by the Department of Justice. If the Department of Justice determines that the buyer or transferee is not eligible to possess a firearm, they shall notify the dealer immediately. There is a 10-day waiting period before delivery of any firearm. Dealers must keep a register of all firearm transfers. A person under restraining order may not acquire any firearm.

Additionally in California, it is unlawful to possess an "assault weapon" unless it is properly registered with the state, and a recently passed bill "AB50" now includes all single shot .50 weapons in that category.

Registration involves: identification of the firearm and the name, address, date of birth, thumbprint and other information on the owner. A fee of up to $20.00 may be charged for the registration. This is in addition to all the other restrictions including the DOJ check waiting period etc.

Yeah, you can just toodle into a gun show in California, plonk down a fiver and walk out with your new Barrett no questions asked. What a boatload of... :rolleyes:

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« Reply #38 on: July 28, 2005, 02:03:07 PM »
Seagoon,

The use of facts to spread fear is counterproductive. It is far more effective to use fear, innuendo, distortion and downright defamation. The use of these tactics by feinstein is pretty obvious but that is not the point she cares about. As long as she gets her way she is happy as she knows far better than we do how we should live our lives. We do not NEED choices. We cannot be trusted with them as we would abuse them. She knows better than we so she will remove those choices for us that she herself decided we should not have. She is not happy just making the decisions of rher own life, she wants to make them for the rest of us as well. After all she is part of the government and knows best.
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« Reply #39 on: July 28, 2005, 02:09:59 PM »


from here

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« Reply #40 on: July 28, 2005, 02:12:00 PM »
Yeah, that's the incident. Fienstien sweeps the room with the muzzle of an "assault rifle".
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« Reply #41 on: July 28, 2005, 02:17:58 PM »
The last time I saw that miserable sad-sack nutcase Feinstein was when she was elected mayor of San Francisco. Between her and the cottin pickin fruit-loops that seem to be the majority in that once awsome city it was time to move.. got as far away as I could, pitying the poor SOB's that were stuck in the fuitbowl.

i'm becoming more and more jaded with regards to the left coast.. wonder if it's my age or their insanity.
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« Reply #42 on: July 28, 2005, 02:42:57 PM »
When Feindstein was in the SF city gov she helped arrange a gun turn in project. On the opening day of it she shows up and turns in an old blued broken .38 special.  A journalist standing near her started enquiring about the pistol because her CCW permit stated she carried a Nickle chiefs special.<----something Nickle plated to this effect.

She told him to bugger off and ran to her limo and left the location before other journalists could take up the question.

Feindstein can only remember the bomb on her door step and the twinky affair where she was in her office down the hall while White shotgunned Milk and Mosconie. Because of that she wants to disarm America. It is not about protecting us citizens from evil doers with guns. It's about never being able to get over her personal inablity to deal with her own fear of the unpredictability of the unwashed masses.

She is so terrified of us that she got herself elected to office to control us and have personal body guards 24x7. If you start looking into the background of most Liberal politicians, you will find some variation on the theme. We the People exercising our personal unpredictable Freedom terrifies and angers them.
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« Reply #43 on: July 28, 2005, 02:43:32 PM »
It's your age.

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I voted for her twice, and I think it is the NRA nutburgers who are spreading lies and fears about the issue. She is not advocating getting rid of these weapons, just that they be regulated like automatics. She also was one of the few Democrats that spoke out against the actions of Bill Clinton. You'd think she would be considered a MILF in here just for that reason alone.

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« Reply #44 on: July 28, 2005, 02:50:11 PM »
And when interviewd after her first gun ban got passed in 1994 she didn't say if she could have gotten the votes she whould have banned all guns in america? Mr. and Mrs. America turn them all in.......NRA did not make that one up. You can find it as public record if you wanna search for it.

Yes age makes for selective memory.
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