Stirring.

[Redlegs]

May I ask what is a land trout. Is that the full 360 degree roll, pushing down on the stick?

[Bronk]

May I ask what is a land trout. Is that the full 360 degree roll, pushing down on the stick?

Go out catch a trout. Now take said trout and toss it on the ground. Watch the reaction, then duplicate with the 190.

[saantana]

When someone gets on my 6, I do the crazy butterfly negative snap inverted flat lazy roll  
It always works  

[SlapShot]

Slappy
 How many times have you caught a 190 and watch them do the neg G pushover into the land trout?

Over the past 6 years ... both you and I and 20 other guys don't have enough fingers and toes to count.

[Murdr]

I got to agree, it would be difficult to do much more about stirring in general.  When I had a lower end controller, "don't move your controls so rapidly" used to get me killed as it was just from minor spiking with quick, small input changes.  And all I was doing, was following a stirrer, trying to line up a shot.  HTC would have to sit down and get more elaborate with what kind of input changes wouldn't be allowed.  I really don't think that will happen any time soon.

The IL2 thing is pretty annoying.  I don't doubt the range of the elevator deflection, but I do question the ability of the pilot not to be knocked silly by the nonsense displayed in the game sometimes.

[Wingnutt]

Like I said, I think if the red out effect was more pronounced and, like the blackout effect, if sever enough would cause total lack of control input.. It would help a great deal.. 

a person in real life can pull far more positive than negative Gs.

in AH too many positive Gs causes total blackout and lack of input.

Negative Gs have no limit..  the redout goes away as soon as you back off, and you never lose control input..  this allowing for extreme ultra melon maneuvers.

[DaveJ]

Like I said, I think if the red out effect was more pronounced and, like the blackout effect, if sever enough would cause total lack of control input.. It would help a great deal.. 

a person in real life can pull far more positive than negative Gs.

in AH too many positive Gs causes total blackout and lack of input.

Negative Gs have no limit..  the redout goes away as soon as you back off, and you never lose control input..  this allowing for extreme ultra melon maneuvers.

Are you of the opinion that the blackouts are for too long of a time, or are they just right do you think?

[Wingnutt]

Are you of the opinion that the blackouts are for too long of a time, or are they just right do you think?

anytime i get one.. its farrr to long.. especially when i hear rounds hitting me as im sitting there helpless

but I think they do well in accurately limiting a persons ability to pull extended high + G maneuvers properly, and thus help with realism.