HT, HQ hardness?

[whels]

HT,

what is the lbs needed to kill HQ currently?

[Easyscor]

37,500 lbs

It was changed in the release notes a long time ago but the help page on targets was never updated.

[whels]

Originally posted by Easyscor
37,500 lbs

It was changed in the release notes a long time ago but the help page on targets was never updated.

it has to be more then that, me and squadie, put 6 lancs x 14 1ks= 84k lbs of eggs on a HQ and it didnt go down.

and all eggs hit the HQ building. something is up with HQ,  i havent seen DAR for any side go down in a long time.


6 Lancs shoulda killed HQ even if we missed a few eggs.

[hitech]

Is set to 37,500.

HiTech

[Krusty]

I've found I cannot hit all 14 1k eggs from a lanc on target. Only about half will hit. The others will miss (because they only drop so fast, by the time they're all out you're past the target). Then the drones aren't too reliable either, chances are only half their eggs over target hit (being on either side, depending on how you lined up) and then half their total load missed the target -- like yours, so all in all out of 3 lancasters, I bet you only got 1 plane's worth of bombs on target.

You just can not drop all 14 bombs fast enough to ensure they all hit the target. YOu have to salvo half of them, turn around, and salvo the other half. I honestly don't know about how much the drones will hit it.

[whels]

Originally posted by Krusty
I've found I cannot hit all 14 1k eggs from a lanc on target. Only about half will hit. The others will miss (because they only drop so fast, by the time they're all out you're past the target). Then the drones aren't too reliable either, chances are only half their eggs over target hit (being on either side, depending on how you lined up) and then half their total load missed the target -- like yours, so all in all out of 3 lancasters, I bet you only got 1 plane's worth of bombs on target.

You just can not drop all 14 bombs fast enough to ensure they all hit the target. YOu have to salvo half of them, turn around, and salvo the other half. I honestly don't know about how much the drones will hit it.

u can put all 14 on target or close enough for blast damage effect
if u dive them on target from low alt (which we did). believe me, Squadie and i put enough eggs on target to kill it, for a 37k lb kill.

[Kev367th]

There ya go thats why it didn't go down.
It knew you were Lanc diving dweebs, HQ has secret anti buff diving defences. jk.

[Krusty]

Yeah...

Okay let's handle this another way then..... If you were diving on on the HQ, and you say you were counting nearby hits? Then you're totally negating your drones. Drones try to match your heading and pitch and that's it... Drones ONLY will hit a target if you are level when you drop. Diving basically makes drones ack fodder, and their bombs are wasted.

Second, yes there is splash damage, but it's not the full force of the bombs. If you landed 14x1k eggs NEAR the HQ, that's not the same as landing them all ON the HQ. There's a major difference, bomb-wise. Splash does very little at times. Depends on the situation. It's a fraction of the total bomb. You can drop 4 separate 1k eggs around a tiger, and it will still be fine. But you drop 1 500lb directly on it, and it's toast.

So the fact that you wasted your drones by diving means you're down to 3 plane loads only. Then the fact that you weren't even dead-on with all your bombs means even less than that hit the HQ, say half total. So you only have about 21,000lbs of ord on target, and you need more than that.


Here's a tip. NEVER dive bomb. EVER. It screws up your aim so bad it's not worth it. Especially on HQ raids. Fly level and salvo. Turn around and repeat. That way at least your drones have a chance of hitting the target.

By the way, drones don't drop exactly where you do. They drop to each side and slightly behind you. They drop from their positions on your wing. So even when level some might miss the HQ (which is why I said that drones won't hit 100% of their bombs on the HQ in my previous post).

[Kev367th]

Noticed also sometimes in a dive the drones start to lag behind (from descending to land, not dive bombing), so that would alter the hit point also.

[Krusty]

That's what I meant by "they won't hit unless you're bombing from a level position". Any move you make has a lag/delay in what they do, and they don't match you perfectly. They're not on rigid arms perfectly hooked to your every move. They are on elastic ropes that can stretch a lot (and when they stretch too far they snap and the drone goes POOF).

But the thing is whenever you fire the trigger, they drop their bombs too. Which means they're WAY off target if you so much as pull any type of manuver while bombing. Trust me on this.

Edit: directed at whels, not kev, whom I presume already knows this.