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« Reply #45 on: August 08, 2005, 12:22:46 PM »
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No cameras, but motion sensor lights that light up the back yard like daylight.  We also have a home security system as well as a dog that likes to bark when there are people that are trespassing without escort (without one of us around)

The downfall of the motion lights is that coyotes and the dog will set them off too. We'd never have anyone crossing our property, as my backyard borders a 100 ft. cliff.  I'm more concerned about entry from the front yard, but security lights are mounted on the front of the house too.


EXACTLY!

or cats..or trees swaying if it is windy.  

I liked that one cactus idea

but just plant raspberries instead. they will grow in almost any type of soil, have thorns, and have fruit.  

2 birds with one stone.

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« Reply #46 on: August 08, 2005, 02:20:20 PM »
If it is such a great shortcut then why not simply create a fenced in corridor for them to travel through?

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« Reply #47 on: August 08, 2005, 02:36:56 PM »
Here ya go....  PLEASE PLEASE try to get footage of this in action if you can.  That would be hilarious@!

http://cgi.ebay.com/SCARECROW-Motion-Activated-Water-Garden-Sprinkler-NEW_W0QQitemZ7705414776QQcategoryZ50365QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


edit.. hmm now link wont work...  they sell the motion sensor sprinklers on ebay... type in "scarecrow sprinklers"

looks like about $45-$50

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« Reply #48 on: August 08, 2005, 03:09:33 PM »
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Wow a... "military grade weapons cache "  is three lousy firearms these days?

I don't think any kid in America expects to be shot for cutting through someones yard..  even tho they know the owner is probly armed.  We don't do that here.   There is a big difference between cutting through the yard and stealing or vandalizing tho... bet they don't do much of that.  

lazs


I was thinking the same thing.  Three guns?  I have that many in the trunk right now.  And not one of them a semiautomatic evil Assault Weapon.

Now, if we were talking about a brace of AK-47s, an M1A or two, and a few thousand rounds of ammo, we'd be talking "cache".

Fellas, most of the solutions offered here are illegal.  No electric fences, no tear gas, no rock salt, NO NO NO!

But that sprinkler idea, now...me likes it!

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« Reply #49 on: August 08, 2005, 04:09:40 PM »
I was thinking Halo should maybe go see a Doctor to untangle his hemoroids as there obviously in a knot...:rolleyes:

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« Reply #50 on: August 08, 2005, 04:14:21 PM »
Also...In my state, trespassers cannot be arrested unless

A) Its posted no trespassin

B)The person has been confronted at least once and warned.

Your state may vary.

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« Reply #51 on: August 08, 2005, 07:05:28 PM »
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LOL! My dog would stand there trying to drink the water from the sprinkler head! :)  But for Halo, this might be the ticket!  (Of course, they might crush that sprinkler in retaliation )


LMAO thats exactly what mine would do also. Then he'd probably knock the darn thing over and break it.

Might not be a bad idea for the sidwalk though.
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« Reply #52 on: August 08, 2005, 07:09:57 PM »
...more evidence a cat is 10 times smarter than a dog. ;)
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« Reply #53 on: August 09, 2005, 12:41:31 AM »
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Dang you hiding a military grade weapons cache or something?
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My thoughts too.. Whatcha growing?

You "City Boys" crack me up. I built the fences myself in high school. My Dad paid me $1 an hour to do it after working on them a year for free. The briars and trees just came along naturally. Now I have a privacy hedgerow perimeter.

I have a deer rifle, a shot gun, a pistol and Ol' Jim ("now THAT'S a knife"). Nothing out of the ordinary, especially in the country.

The electric fence was a cheap way to keep the horses away from the house. Now they can't poop by my bedroom window or chew up the cover to my jaccuzi. I got the highest amperage fence charger I could so it would burn thru weeds. The fact it will knock the pee out of ya if you come sneaking up in the dark is just a fringe benefit.

The reason I put my house where nobody could see it? Because I could.:cool:
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« Reply #54 on: August 09, 2005, 03:05:28 AM »
Electronic devices??  What happened to guts?  Just tell 'em to stay off your property.




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« Reply #55 on: August 09, 2005, 08:42:20 PM »
Talked with county police today and found that at least in Virginia, trespassers are not viewed with much alarm.  If more people knew how lenient the law is, there probably would be a lot more trespassing.  

I naively figured that in an established suburb where all the backyards are fenced, anyone climbing a fence into someone else's property would be guilty and punished with at least an official warning and probably a fine.  

Nope.  

First, if I am concerned, I should post No Trespassing signs.  (Right, in an established suburban neighborhood where all the backyards are connected by chain link fences clearly marking property lines.)

Second, I would have to identify any trespassers ("You there, stand still and give me some identification") and have them served with a No Trespassing Order.

Third, if they trespassed again, I could report them and then maybe something would happen in the justice system.

Notice in none of these instances are police present at the scene.  Because in most cases the trespassers leave before the police could arrive.  If they don't, that's another situation, usually a more serious confrontation.  

And of course if a property owner detains a trespasser by threat or force, that could go badly for the property owner for using force beyond what is called for (whatever that is).  

The cop I spoke with was responsive and sympathetic, but clearly reflected that trespassing itself is not a major problem compared to all the more serious crimes being committed.  

He said he has not seen security cameras being that useful for most homeowners, explaining that the highest quality systems that give pictures good enough for solid evidence are very expensive (i.e., several thousand dollars) for what they return.  

So now I'm retreating slightly to installing motion activated floodlights as the quickest and most effective trespassing deterrent for the money.

I'll keep looking into motion activated infra red security cameras feeding into a DVR, but that will be a longer term possibility rather than an immediate implementation.

Another potential  longer term solution will be considering a suburbanly acceptable but formidable hedge of some sort; if nothng else it would obscure the inviting open panomara that now exists.  

Incidentally, one of the best quick illumination devices I found is a Brinkmann Maxfire LX Lithium/Xenon flashlight that is 12 times brighter than a comparable 2AA flashlight.  It's also brighter than a 2C Mag-Lite, although the bigger and heavier Mag-Lite would be a much better last resort club.

The Maxfire is only $20 at Wal-Mart.  You can buy three for the $60 similar models start at in gun stores.
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« Reply #56 on: August 09, 2005, 10:39:55 PM »
Yet another reason I love Texas.

Someone on your property?
"Halt, I am in fear." Bang.

No witnesses?
Bang. "Halt, I am in fear."
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« Reply #57 on: August 10, 2005, 12:05:51 AM »
Possible Solutions:

a) Blare Wierd Al's "Trigger Happy" from a loudspeaker in your backyard 24/7

b) Motion Activated Anti-Personnel Flechette Gun - 'nuff said