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Offline DamnedRen

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« Reply #30 on: August 10, 2005, 01:11:00 AM »
If you think ENY doesn't work then you might be looking at it incorrectly. Why shouldn't you just jump countries so you can get the plane you'd like to fly and fly it.

If you're in a squad then take the whole squad with you.

The programmers of this game could care less about loyalty. It's a numbers game not who you fly for so what difference does it make it you switch sides daily?

One thing has changed...you can change countries without losing your squad affilliation so enjoy!

Think about it. Why should you be penalized and not be able to fly any plane you want or can afford? Isn't that what ENY is all about. Do AH a favor and change countries so everyone is even. Change daily! Hey! Ya never know if only a couple change then your original country is still at a loss but you can fly the planes you joined the game to fly.

Yeah, that's it...

Be careful tho. If too many switch then the ENY goes the other way and you gotta switch again.

Maybe we should do away with side switching time limits too so we can switch all the time? Yeah...that would make it really fun. And then think off all the perk points you could win every single time you jumped for the war's end. Heck, you could get perk points to fly all the hot rod planes. But again you have to be careful cause you don't want too many people on your side because you'll never get to use them without switchin sides again. I suppose you could pop in grab the points and pop out, right? Yeah....kewl....but we gotta ask they do away with time limits, right?

Whatcha think?

IMHO we should switch often for points and fun!!!

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« Reply #31 on: August 10, 2005, 01:32:25 AM »
I think the big reason it doesn't really work is....Most of your better, more experienced, good sticks can fly a wide variety of planes well, across the entire ENY spectrum. They are far more loyal to their country and squadron affiliation than any given plane. It may work to some extent for the noob who can only get a kill in a Niki/Spit/Lgay7, but those types are of very little value, one uber-ace can out-kill 10 uber-noobs per unit time even if severely plane handicapped. I spoke of this at great length before and at the release of the ENY thing. It just operates contrary to human nature and is therefore flawed intrinsically.

Personally, I would rather fly a 202 or Hurri I than fly for Bishops and would never switch teams for any reason. I'd cancel my account before flying with some of the incredible tards Bishops have.

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« Reply #32 on: August 10, 2005, 01:57:03 AM »
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Don't bother me one bit, your the one that made this whine thread. Like you said, I'll "bunny hop" where I want and fly what I want. I think it's funny that people whine about not being able to fly their favorite plane b/c they refuse to move from the hording side, to the undermanned side be it do to loyalty or the free perks. While your whining about ENY, I'm flyin a 163 for 10 perkies. And yes, we do stick together don't we? If you saw hubs hiney you'd understand. So challenge away at my wisdom till your blue in the face, I'll just have a good laugh and ignore you as I try to get over my virtual ego and work on my virtual loyalty. It's only a game that really proves nothing in real life after all. Except Morph, he uses this game to get the chickies.

Oh, and thanks for taking the bait:aok  Like I care what you guys do with your time/money on this GAME lololol. So until next time pixels!


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bish but still had no limiter.  As far as flying my favorite plane..
that's all you sweetheart..I don't have a favorite plane.

    I also think it's not my ego that's the issue here pookie.
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« Reply #33 on: August 10, 2005, 01:59:02 AM »
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« Reply #34 on: August 10, 2005, 07:23:42 AM »
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Personally, I would rather fly a 202 or Hurri I than fly for Bishops and would never switch teams for any reason. I'd cancel my account before flying with some of the incredible tards Bishops have.

Zazen


Dude.... lighten up. I switched to Bish lately (Not that I'm any help to them) and haven't noticed any more Tards there than anywhere else. Take a few deep breaths man and CTFO. ;)

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« Reply #35 on: August 10, 2005, 07:32:39 AM »
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Dude.... lighten up. I switched to Bish lately (Not that I'm any help to them) and haven't noticed any more Tards there than anywhere else. Take a few deep breaths man and CTFO. ;)

Woof


I too have flown Bishops. I maintain my position that Bishops have a virtual monopoly on tards. That is not to say they do not have some good people as well or that other teams don't have the odd tard. But those few good people on Bishops are overshadowed by an army of tard kiddies barking orders, crying, whining, pissing and moaning, with or without numbers. Keep in mind Bishops have only really had a #'s problem of any significance for the past 6 to 8 weeks. That is a blink of an eye compared to how long Rooks then Knights enjoyed the very bottom of the bucket. Now look at all the Bish whining that has taken place in that brief time. You'd think the sky was falling by the deafening roar of their crying, whining, pissing and moaning. All the while getting benefit from the ENY limiter. It is all this whining that got the ENY limiter implimented in the first place as a result of Rooks one night a week Sunday RJO's.

Being at the very bottom of the bucket for a good 6 to 8 months like Rooks and Knights were can only help Bishops IMHO. They need to learn to stop quitting and concentrate more on fightering than porking and milkrunning. Constantly being on the defensive will do nothing but help them in this regard. Those that do stick it out on Bish will be better players for it in the long run. Up until recently Bishops have always enjoyed either par numbers or a huge advantage in numbers their entire life in AH.

Bishops were the original gang-banging, horde mongering team, having been the greatest in numbers since beta and gradually tailing off to this point. This has bred an entire generation of what I call, 'Fair Weather Flyers", that is those people who will only hang around, be it online or for that country, if the situation is favorable to them. When the chips are down they either country jump or quit altogether. Watch Bishops when they get down to a few fields on a map, their numbers plummet, other teams get over-bloated and they lose quickly. Compare that to Rooks last week who were in reset corner on NDIsles. We were down to 4 bases at one point and 6 bases several times with HQ vulched. Yet, we fought back and forced that small map to last the entire 7 days from reset Wednesday to reset Wednesday from reset corner, never having the mass exodus of players Bishops do when things get bleak. This epitomizes the heart and soul of the difference between the individuals on those two teams and the feel they generate for each team, both playing for and against them. Bishops have never had the priviledge of wallowing in the very bottom of the bucket as Rooks and Knights have, this will be a new and good experience for them. Unlike Rooks and Knights Bishops have the ENY limiter to make it alot less painfull for them than it was for us.

So, after the Bishops spend a good 6 to 9 months in  the very bottom of the bucket, they too can get a tee-shirt like Rooks and Knights have that proudly says, "I survived the Bucket". Call it your true initation to Aces High, enjoy.


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« Reply #36 on: August 10, 2005, 07:36:09 AM »
Personally ive never swiched sides, and I dont see the need to as long as im happy where i am.

Up to now Id never been touched by ENY limitations at all. Only since im trying to turnfight N1Ks and Typhs have i noticed that theres such a thing.


Whhaaaaaaaa ENY forces me to up a HurriMk1!!!!.... oh.... wait a sec... thats my favorite ride... hmmm...

LOL. Who cares.... Its a *GAME*. Have fun!
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« Reply #37 on: August 10, 2005, 08:36:05 AM »
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I too have flown Bishops. I maintain my position that Bishops have a virtual monopoly on tards. That is not to say they do not have some good people as well or that other teams don't have the odd tard. But those few good people on Bishops are overshadowed by an army of tard kiddies barking orders, crying, whining, pissing and moaning, with or without numbers. Keep in mind Bishops have only really had a #'s problem of any significance for the past 6 to 8 weeks. That is a blink of an eye compared to how long Rooks then Knights enjoyed the very bottom of the bucket. Now look at all the Bish whining that has taken place in that brief time. You'd think the sky was falling by the deafening roar of their crying, whining, pissing and moaning. All the while getting benefit from the ENY limiter. It is all this whining that got the ENY limiter implimented in the first place as a result of Rooks one night a week Sunday RJO's.

Being at the very bottom of the bucket for a good 6 to 8 months like Rooks and Knights were can only help Bishops IMHO. They need to learn to stop quitting and concentrate more on fightering than porking and milkrunning. Constantly being on the defensive will do nothing but help them in this regard. Those that do stick it out on Bish will be better players for it in the long run. Up until recently Bishops have always enjoyed either par numbers or a huge advantage in numbers their entire life in AH.

Bishops were the original gang-banging, horde mongering team, having been the greatest in numbers since beta and gradually tailing off to this point. This has bred an entire generation of what I call, 'Fair Weather Flyers", that is those people who will only hang around, be it online or for that country, if the situation is favorable to them. When the chips are down they either country jump or quit altogether. Watch Bishops when they get down to a few fields on a map, their numbers plummet, other teams get over-bloated and they lose quickly. Compare that to Rooks last week who were in reset corner on NDIsles. We were down to 4 bases at one point and 6 bases several times with HQ vulched. Yet, we fought back and forced that small map to last the entire 7 days from reset Wednesday to reset Wednesday from reset corner, never having the mass exodus of players Bishops do when things get bleak. This epitomizes the heart and soul of the difference between the individuals on those two teams and the feel they generate for each team, both playing for and against them. Bishops have never had the priviledge of wallowing in the very bottom of the bucket as Rooks and Knights have, this will be a new and good experience for them. Unlike Rooks and Knights Bishops have the ENY limiter to make it alot less painfull for them than it was for us. So, after a good 6 to 9 months Bishops spend in the very bottom of the bucket, they too can get a tee-shirt like Rooks and Knights have the proudly says, "I survived the Bucket". Call it your true initation to Aces High.


Zazen


Sometimes I wonder if I play the same game or I am on the same planet as Zazen ;) .

Apart from rare occassions in AH2, I can't remeber the Bishops ever having the kind of numbers as the Knits.
Now AH1 is another story. But our squad flew for the lowest numbered country in AH1, switched Knits to Rooks, Rooks numbers picked up - went Bish, enter AH2.
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« Reply #38 on: August 10, 2005, 08:37:28 AM »
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Sometimes I wonder if I play the same game or I am on the same planet as Zazen ;) .


You've only ever played as a Bishop, you have no objective frame of reference from which to compare, it's natural for you to feel that way.

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« Reply #39 on: August 10, 2005, 08:41:51 AM »
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You've only ever played as a Bishop, you have no objective point of reference from which to compare, it's natural for you to feel that way.

Zazen


WRONG
When I first joined I was a Knit, joined the squad.
when Rooks numbers were consistenly low, squad went Rook, along with a few others, AK's etc.
When Rooks numbers picked up squad went Bish (lowest at time).
AH2 arrived.
Since then been Bish, only because numbers wise apart from rare occassions they tend to be the lowest along with the Rooks.

So I would say I do have an objective point of reference.

Does shoot self in foot, insert foot in mouth spring to mind?
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« Reply #40 on: August 10, 2005, 08:57:24 AM »
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. I'd cancel my account before flying with some of the incredible tards Bishops have.

Zazen [/B][/Q

Zazen , you seems to be a smart educated person,
But you are  actting like kind of "Joseph Goebbels" , master propagandist.  And all your crap against bish, makes those bish who bite it,  feel inferior species,worst than jews in WW2.
 I think most of the bish would like to fly with you in bisland, but with killshooter turned off.

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« Reply #41 on: August 10, 2005, 09:06:24 AM »
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Originally posted by Zazen13
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. I'd cancel my account before flying with some of the incredible tards Bishops have.

Zazen [/B][/Q

Zazen , you seems to be a smart educated person,
But you are  actting like kind of "Joseph Goebbels" , master propagandist.  And all your crap against bish, makes those bish who bite it,  feel inferior species,worst than jews in WW2.
 I think most of the bish would like to fly with you in bisland, but with killshooter turned off. [/B]


Then I have succeeded ;)

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« Reply #42 on: August 10, 2005, 09:12:53 AM »
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WRONG
When I first joined I was a Knit, joined the squad.
when Rooks numbers were consistenly low, squad went Rook, along with a few others, AK's etc.
When Rooks numbers picked up squad went Bish (lowest at time).
AH2 arrived.
Since then been Bish, only because numbers wise apart from rare occassions they tend to be the lowest along with the Rooks.

So I would say I do have an objective point of reference.

Does shoot self in foot, insert foot in mouth spring to mind?


I've never seen you anything other than Bishops, I have checked your stats back 15 tours and can't find any significant contribution to a team other than Bishops. Unless it's back near beta you're FOS, I don't have the patience to pull your stats that far back. In any event if you have flown for any other country it was so long ago as to be no longer relevant to the discussion at hand.

PS. The AK's came Rooks for about 2 weeks before bailing back to Bishops during that period, I was there. Everyone keeps touting them as an example of a big squad giving of themselves for the greater good, the saviors of Rookland or some such crap. That is not what happened, they came Rooks, got gang spanked 24/7 like we were getting (w/ no ENY limiter help I might add) and bailed back to Bishops for the safety of the horde real quick like.

Zazen
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« Reply #43 on: August 10, 2005, 09:44:03 AM »
Yes it is relevant.
Even though it happened in AH1, numbers imbalance is numbers imbalance whether it was yesterday or 1 day before AH2 was released.

Try reading my original post again, thoroughly.
You'll see I clearly mention "AH2 arrived".

So yes it was pre AH2, during the time when the Rooks were constantly outnumbered by both the Bish and Knits by a large number.

Like many others, you pat yourself on the back for RJO's totally ignoring any help the squads that did come over to help balance things out.
In fact the big difference now is that squads don't seem to do that anymore.

So I think I have a objective point of reference, only difference now is ENY limits.


There was one, and only one reason you fought back the other week -
Because instead of Knits and Bish both hitting you to put you out your misery, we were too busy fighting to get just one or two more fields to have that little cushion. Don't delude yourself.
If both sides had gone for the reset, it would have been over.
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« Reply #44 on: August 10, 2005, 09:58:17 AM »
Ghi you 100% wrong about him. The 1st line of your post is  anyway, the rest is right on the money.