Author Topic: Might want to take a new look at ENY (Read 2556 times)

Kev367th · « **Reply #60 on:** August 10, 2005, 07:36:24 PM »

SYSTEM : Bishops have won the war
SYSTEM : You have been awarded &&*%$CRASH,FART
SYSTEM : HOST CONNECTION LOST

Its so rare I'm sure it would do it us.

wrag · « **Reply #61 on:** August 10, 2005, 07:44:59 PM »

IMHO the numbers for the knights increased due to all the country jumpers going over to the knights when they saw the reset about to occure.

As to having low numbers. Been flyin knights for a very long time. Started out in another country, and then switched to still another country.

At the time I found the knights had the best team flyers.

And when I had a question the knights answered where the bish and rooks seemed to ignore me.

Neither rooks nor bish seem to give 6 calls or talk out tactic's during a fight.

Knights in many cases do.

So ~~Knights!~~

GooseAW · « **Reply #62 on:** August 10, 2005, 07:50:31 PM »

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Well gee golly, I'm sorry Goose, I didn't realize your heads would explode if you had to do something to contribute the gameplay for the rest of the community. How silly of me. In all honesty, I used to have this misguided perception that I was somehow adding something the game by not moving around and flying with the different folks on different countries. Thankfully, I'm not that stupid anymore.

ENY should be turned up even higher. It does a little to help, which is better than nothing, and certainly better than some of the other options they might have taken. However, I still support additional measures because the "I shouldn't be penalized for my loyalty" bull**** is still prevalent.

You don't want my ideas. You just wanted to pop in, ***** about being kept out of your niki and jet, and then give us your powerful and moving story of your unswerving loyalty. Great. I'm still not moved enough to think the overall quality of gameplay for everyone else is any less important.

Turn ENY up.

LMAO! 1 day I hope to achieve your level of contribution to the community! OMG! That's a riot! Can you get anymore Pompus? Or Clueless?!

ENY is a failure that only hurts the game! I'm just not gonna sit back and let you spout BU*****T anymore. I know you expected we'd just let it go and bow. BTW, I couldn't care less what planes are available to me. I'll be fine but it hurts the community. So, Get back in your powder blue spitV and fly into the sunset. Oh, BTW, aren't the BKs flying rook right now? By your own admonishments shouldn't you be bish this tour? ..

hubsonfire · « **Reply #63 on:** August 10, 2005, 08:14:07 PM »

How has ENY failed the game, and how does it hurt it? By encouraging balance? By limiting the "uber" or more popular rides for the players who won't work to improve numerical balance, and thereby gameplay overall? Clueless? Pompous? Personal attacks? That's fine- do you really think I give a **** what you think about me?

And, by the way, I am bishop this week. There's been a general lack of good fights on the rooks, imo, and too much focus on the horde war. A majority of the guys who fly when I do are also bishops. Some are indeed still rook, but they mostly fly earlier in the evenings, when numbers are a bit more balanced (in fact, last night, the rooks were the low number country when I logged in).

So, keep crying about the failure of the ENY, keep crying about how it hurts the game. You guys who don't support balance or improved gameplay for the rest of HTC's customers are still the problem. Make your lame little attacks on the squad, or call me clueless, whatever; my opinion on ENY remains unchanged.

Zazen13 · « **Reply #64 on:** August 10, 2005, 09:20:58 PM »

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Originally posted by Kev367th
SYSTEM : Bishops have won the war
SYSTEM : You have been awarded &&*%$CRASH,FART
SYSTEM : HOST CONNECTION LOST

Its so rare I'm sure it would do it us.

Ok, I'll give credit where it's due, that's funny as hell.

Zazen

GooseAW · « **Reply #65 on:** August 10, 2005, 11:57:11 PM »

I've said my piece hub.....S

AKH · « **Reply #66 on:** August 11, 2005, 12:23:19 AM »

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Originally posted by Zazen13
PS. The AK's came Rooks for about 2 weeks before bailing back to Bishops during that period, I was there. Everyone keeps touting them as an example of a big squad giving of themselves for the greater good, the saviors of Rookland or some such crap. That is not what happened, they came Rooks, got gang spanked 24/7 like we were getting (w/ no ENY limiter help I might add) and bailed back to Bishops for the safety of the horde real quick like.

Zazen

Dream on.

Simaril · « **Reply #67 on:** August 11, 2005, 06:10:49 PM »

The ENY has little impact on the top tier players. They can kill -- and survive -- in many planes, at numerical disadvantage. It's unlikely that ENY tuning will affect their country choice.

But because they are relatively few in number, their movement would have little impact on rebalancing sides anyway.

I again argue that the primary focus of ENY tweaking should be on movement of mid tier players -- larger in number, and more affected by disadvantage in either plane quality or by being LOCALLY outnumbered. The current ENY settings are inadequate for achieving this goal.

To rebalance sides, ENY needs to:

1) Be clearly understood by enough players that it can exert meaningful pressure toward the desired outcome. I still hear 200 chatter that starts with "WTF?...." ENY gets explained, but for every one who complains out loud there are likely several others who dont express their frustration -- and will have undeservedly negative feelings about the game.

2) Exert enough pressure that those who can be influenced to make a rebalancing move, will do so. Squads with chess piece loyalty, however misguided, will whine loudly but will not easily move -- unless the inconveniencing imbalance persists for a long while. ENY should hurt enough that significant numbers will switch (even temporarily), so that the intermediate players can have fun on all 3 sides.

I've tried switching to the low side, but I can't find fun as a bish when every base is covered with hordes of red radar pimples. TO make the system work, enouhg have to switch to even things out - -and current ENY settings are inadequate to that task.

tactic · « **Reply #68 on:** August 11, 2005, 06:57:03 PM »

WHEN the numbers are lopsided Just put perk cost on the planes that we lose when the "bs" eny kicks in , so at least you can fly or drive what ever you choose. If the bs eny has to be....

It is BS, when you as a Paying player, cant do as you please as far as flying or driving. Some of the people are there for squads, land grab, war wana winners,... but some are there to do "their thing" . Dont say switch countries! We should not have to Switch nothing just to fly or drive what ever we want.

Hate saying this but we pay our monthly fee to play a game, "not someones elses game" if you get what i mean.

Why dont they take a vote and see just how many people want or dont want this eny stuff.

Eny causes the same affects being here, then when there was no ENY. people switch countries or log off, quit, whine , cry about being caught by a 190 or yak while in a la7 . it really dont help.

Prolongs the inevitable , makes more then the losing country lose, it makes it no fun even the winners. sigh..........

ghi · « **Reply #69 on:** August 12, 2005, 12:03:50 AM »

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It is BS, when you as a Paying player, cant do as you please as far as flying or driving. .

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i'm a bish why should i pay for your fun only playing in a team out# ? Just because you Knights Airhorde need something to hunt down for your fun?? Why don't you play bish , just to taste our fun in last few months,

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hubsonfire · « **Reply #70 on:** August 12, 2005, 12:55:22 AM »

Tactic, you're more than welcome to fly or drive whatever you like. All you have to do is contribute to the overall quality of gameplay for all the other paying customers whose money, opinions, and ideas are equally valuable to HTC.

Sure, you could take a vote. Since we have ENY, and many more people limited by ENY then benefitting from it, there will, surprise, be more Nay votes. Just because you're in the majority, doesn't make you right.

The perk idea, as many times as it's been brought up, is still a bad idea. It's saying "I've been a paying customer longer, and I have more perks, so let's give the newer guys the shaft so I can fly what I want in the horde".

Oh, poor tactic doesn't doesn't want to switch? Well, maybe poor ghi wants to fly a plane, but he has only 9 bases, the FH are dead at all of them, and if he should get airborn in something, he has to face a mob of Tactics in La7s. Your idea of quality gameplay means "Screw everyone else".

Lousy ideas, all of them.

tactic · « **Reply #71 on:** August 12, 2005, 01:57:05 AM »

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It is BS, when you as a Paying player, cant do as you please as far as flying or driving. .

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i'm a bish why should i pay for your fun only playing in a team out# ? Just because you Knights Airhorde need something to hunt down for your fun?? Why don't you play bish , just to taste our fun in last few months,

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What? pay for my fun only .. now thats funny! You said it, I could say the same thing. but its for everyone's fun, So why ruin mine because some people want to limit what i fly . Seems selfish on your side. Its a game, a war game, in war being outnumbered happens.

(Just to taste our fun in the last few months?) we all go through it ..If I'm out numbered I dont care what you fly. and I dont cry about it Fact is we all pay our money for ourselves and our own fun. you included!

Urchin · « **Reply #72 on:** August 12, 2005, 02:03:26 AM »

Tactic, do you enjoy fighting other people?

tactic · « **Reply #73 on:** August 12, 2005, 02:26:04 AM »

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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Tactic, you're more than welcome to fly or drive whatever you like. All you have to do is contribute to the overall quality of gameplay for all the other paying customers whose money, opinions, and ideas are equally valuable to HTC.

Sure, you could take a vote. Since we have ENY, and many more people limited by ENY then benefitting from it, there will, surprise, be more Nay votes. Just because you're in the majority, doesn't make you right.

The perk idea, as many times as it's been brought up, is still a bad idea. It's saying "I've been a paying customer longer, and I have more perks, so let's give the newer guys the shaft so I can fly what I want in the horde".

Oh, poor tactic doesn't doesn't want to switch? Well, maybe poor ghi wants to fly a plane, but he has only 9 bases, the FH are dead at all of them, and if he should get airborn in something, he has to face a mob of Tactics in La7s. Your idea of quality gameplay means "Screw everyone else".

Lousy ideas, all of them.

hubsonfire Giving your personal input is fine about my post , But I contribute my part by paying my monthly fee, as you seem to think your opinion is correct, its not in my book. The Quality of my playing goes down when eny is on. Value to htc is the monthly fee first, yes then opinions and ideas. Money first though, dont forget that, thats business no money no business.

Would you quit the game if the eny was not here? eh? Right is right , and wrong is wrong, noone said your right or I'm right. Too bad if you dont have perks, you got to start somewhere, A new guy cant fly a 262 right away so let them have free rides until they have the perks to pay for it?

Poor tactic Should not have to switch, I have squad mates I dont want to fight against and others I dont want to fight as well while in a the country im in. mob of tactics in la7's funny one there too. You guys cry about those plane too much, see a bunch of super la7s comming jump in one yourself and kill all the others if your so good in la7s. Im not. My quailty of game play is not screw everyone else, thats yours. read what your saying. Too many cry babies think they only have the right opinions.

I dont cry when outnumbered, why do you? I dont cry if the whole damn arena ups la7s, why do you? Up the LA7 super plane yourself and kill all the other la7's. la7 this la7 that... Atleast im objective on the subject. I'll deal with it big numbers or low numbers,. I and everyone else should be able to fly or drive what ever you want.

With the eny I'm not welcome to fly what ever i want. contribute to the overall quality of gameplay is giving up my fun , not thinking so. If i wanted limited plane choice i'd go to the ct,. so there!

tactic · « **Reply #74 on:** August 12, 2005, 02:32:50 AM »

Urchin, I made some comments, giving my opinion. so what do you mean do i enjoy fighting other people? Its a war game, fighting is involved. or do you mean on the bb's?