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Offline Zazen13

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« Reply #45 on: August 10, 2005, 10:15:38 AM »
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There was one, and only one reason you fought back the other week -
Because instead of Knits and Bish both hitting you to put you out your misery, we were too busy fighting to get just one or two more fields to have that little cushion. Don't delude yourself.
If both sides had gone for the reset, it would have been over.


Hahaha, Ummmm Ok whatever! That's really funny! :rolleyes:

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« Reply #46 on: August 10, 2005, 11:19:59 AM »
Does it still cap at ENY 40, leaving great and powerful aircraft like La-5FNs, C.205s, Hurri IICs and Mossies available?

I'd like to see what would happen is it capped at 60, leaving you with Spit Is, C.202s, C-47s, M-3s, B5N2s and D3A1s to fight with?

 That would be interesting trying to gangbang F4U-4s, La-7s, Tempests and Spit XIVs in those.
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Re: Might want to take a new look at ENY
« Reply #47 on: August 10, 2005, 11:20:56 AM »
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Originally posted by Rino
I understand the need for ENY, but at times it seems truly
unbalanced.  For example, just left the arena with 150 knights,
89 rooks and about 57 bish.  ENY for Knights was at 49ish, but
the rooks had no restrictions at all.


I'm not too sure how the math on the back end works, but at first blink it seems fairly straight forward. Once the spread between lowest and  highest population gets to a certain point, envy restrictions start to come into play. Then just scale up from there? Again, that just from my very limited observation of this.

I think that's a really good approach and pretty ingenious on the part of the HTC folks. I'm not sure how factoring in the middle country would work though, or even if it fits into the overall model of what they're trying to accomplish. That is to say the underlying intent is to encourage people to leave the highest population country and go to one of the lower (preferably the lowest). Thus penalizing the middle pop country doesn't fit that model too well as that is, generally speaking, about where you want the countries on the other two extremes to be.

One thing that would be a nice addition though is the ability to swap countries on a short term basis to help balance numbers without losing your squad affiliation. I haven't tried it mind you, but I gather from other posts on the subject that when you change countries, you lose your squadmembership (which does make sense of course). I'd be quite willing to swap sides on a temporary basis to help the underdogs, provided I didn't have to muck around with getting re-admitted to the squad after I came back.
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« Reply #48 on: August 10, 2005, 11:20:57 AM »
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Does it still cap at ENY 40, leaving great and powerful aircraft like La-5FNs, C.205s, Hurri IICs and Mossies available?

I'd like to see what would happen is it capped at 60, leaving you with Spit Is, C.202s, C-47s, M-3s, B5N2s and D3A1s to fight with?

 That would be interesting trying to gangbang F4U-4s, La-7s, Tempests and Spit XIVs in those.


Wouldn't it just lololol.
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« Reply #49 on: August 10, 2005, 11:27:24 AM »
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you lose your squadmembership (which does make sense of course


You do not loose your membership now.

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« Reply #50 on: August 10, 2005, 01:38:55 PM »
I would say based on the most recent kill numbers, the usage of the P-51D has dropped way down since the time it was set at 10 ENY.

I think the P-51D should have it's ENY vaule raised. The Cannon armed A/C get the most kills in the MA now.

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« Reply #51 on: August 10, 2005, 01:40:31 PM »
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You do not loose your membership now.

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According to the game, yes. According to some squad rules switching countries means your out of the squad.

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« Reply #52 on: August 10, 2005, 02:02:25 PM »
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   I also think it's not my ego that's the issue here pookie.


I didn't say you had an ego. I said...


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   So challenge away at my wisdom till your blue in the face, I'll just have a good laugh and ignore you as I try to get over my virtual ego and work on my virtual loyalty.


And as far as favorite planes go, I don't really have 1 either. I pretty much suck in all of them equally. BTW, what's your ingame name?
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Re: Might want to take a new look at ENY
« Reply #53 on: August 10, 2005, 02:30:05 PM »
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I  For example, just left the arena with 150 knights,
89 rooks and about 57 bish.  ]
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 with this #s, i suggest,temporary solution

1.    ENY to go higher and hit both teams with high #s,
get enforced even when are 100-150 players in MA,( 20 bish vs 50 knits vs 40 rooks, ) not only over 200-250 players

2.   me163s, enabled on all bases for out# team over certain ENY#, and 262s cheaper,

3. perk multiplier higher

4. acs/puffy gun lethality incresing with ENY

     #2 and #3, can bait player switch to out #s team

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« Reply #54 on: August 10, 2005, 03:29:39 PM »
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Vortex wrote:
 

You do not loose your membership now.

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Excellent. I'll definitely give this a try then next time things get a bit lopsided.
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« Reply #55 on: August 10, 2005, 03:45:43 PM »
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Excellent. I'll definitely give this a try then next time things get a bit lopsided.


Guess you'll be a Bish on a regular basis then.
Want us to reserve you a place by the table?  :)
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« Reply #56 on: August 10, 2005, 03:49:00 PM »
Some squads would throw you out for changing countries. I wouldn't belong to such a squad,  but they have some uptight generals out there.

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« Reply #57 on: August 10, 2005, 07:11:19 PM »
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I'm not a greedy guy, I'd just like to fly something with more
than 2 fifty cal on it ;)



Why? You cant hit anything anyway:)
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« Reply #58 on: August 10, 2005, 07:13:53 PM »
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You do not loose your membership now.


IMO this is about the best feature in the entire game.

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« Reply #59 on: August 10, 2005, 07:22:45 PM »
SYSTEM: The Rooks Have Won The War
SYSTEM: You Have Been Deducted 43.7 Points For Overpopulation.


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