Author Topic: something that has always bothered me about star trek (Read 1078 times)

FalconSix · « **Reply #15 on:** August 09, 2005, 05:42:34 PM »

How do you figure?

bustr · « **Reply #16 on:** August 09, 2005, 05:51:51 PM »

The new Battle Star Social Realism game show is too much like "The West Wing" in space. It's great for guys who wanna watch chicks on testosterone and how the writers feel war and politics should be if they were in charge.

Only a screen writer would think it's a viable human survival strategy to send the last of your females into harms way instead of making sure when you are at 50,000 of your species left out of billions, you get all the females knocked up for a long time to come. You don't throw your physically best able to reproduce to the meat grinder.

It's kinda like I've never figured out how women pass the physical for fire fighting when it's a given at some point they may be alone with a 225lb unconcious victom with the only way out is carrying them down 6 flights to safety......................u nless they are from East Germany and on steroids......

...... thats it, the Battel Star babes are on futuristic steroids, oh dummy me. They can throw their fighter over their shoulders and sprint down the the steps in the Washington Monument.

Chairboy · « **Reply #17 on:** August 09, 2005, 06:33:40 PM »

Oh lordy lordy, I absolutely agree Bustr! Why in fact it is my fervent hope that the frail women folk of the world will all be returned to the warm and safe embrace of the kitchen from which they escaped.

Goodness gracious, I sure hope no woman semi-truck driver ever has to hook up a trailer! Good idea to send 'em all home, just in case. I also am afeared that some poor little girl working as a waitress may find herself over-loaded with not one but TWO trays of food! Oh heavens, the carnage of spilled gravy and toast would be absolutely APPALLING! Such work should be confined to the rippling, muscular chested Brawny models that all of us males are.

Please, won't SOMEBODY think of the women CHILDREN?

Boroda · « **Reply #18 on:** August 09, 2005, 06:58:09 PM »

Hmm.

I stongly advise you guys to read some Soviet classic Sci-Fi, like Strugatsky brothers "Midday, XXII Century".

I don't think that that particular book was translated, but most of their other classic books are inside a "Midday World", like some that I remember I saw on Amazon: "Far Rainbow", "Inhabited Island"(checked with Amazon, it was translated as "Prisoners of Power"), maybe "A Guy from Hell", "Beetle in the Anthill" etc. Even "It's hard to be a God" is from the same "Midday World" series!

In a first book they show a possible (I mean - Possible!) Communist society, and then use it as a decoration to the plots that don't need further explainations because they are possible in any society.

They made a same progress as pan Stanislaw (IMHO the greatest Sci-Fi writer ever). If you ever read Lem's early books like "Astronauts" or "Magellan's Cloud" you understand what I mean.

bustr · « **Reply #19 on:** August 09, 2005, 07:00:23 PM »

The writers of Battle Star set the numbers. 50,000 live human bodies. Add up all the possible ship loss accidents not counting fighting the cylons, then throw in combat losses and you may be getting down close to first cousin genetics problems to revitalise the human race. Down the road you still may loose the human race because of the gentics problems.

My O'lady is Washington Mutual's West coast Instructional Training Designer. We are both 50. They don't pay her peanuts. When I remodel our house, she's up to her arm pits in everything I'm working on. She's my partner in life. I wash dishes, wash cloths, wash windows, sew clothing, interior decorate, tend my garden, change cat litter, put the toilet seat down and have held teaching credentials in two schools of Japanese Swordsmanship and trained female and male students. Both sexes bleed the same.

Chairboy, you got a point, or you wanna keep insulting my O'lady's lifetime opinion of me?

Vulcan · « **Reply #20 on:** August 09, 2005, 07:02:18 PM »

No green chicks on BSG... its not pure Sci Fi unless theres green chicks.

ASTAC · « **Reply #21 on:** August 09, 2005, 07:06:06 PM »

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Originally posted by Vulcan
No green chicks on BSG... its not pure Sci Fi unless theres green chicks.

To be fair, the 2 Chicks identified as Cylons are pretty hot. I'f hit it! Twice!

bustr · « **Reply #22 on:** August 09, 2005, 07:22:50 PM »

If BSD didn't have babes on testosterone, geeks in the target age range wouldn't watch, and the show wouldn't sell advertising. Could you imagine Iwo Jima with BSD babes getting cut down in the thousands on day one at the black sand beach? Or D-Day and all the first wave LST's dropping the landing ramp and 100% BSD babes running out into the German fire? Or the Battan death march. All BSD Babes. Or Cameron, wonder what kind of history the Legion would be remembering today?

Hangtime · « **Reply #23 on:** August 09, 2005, 08:12:33 PM »

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Originally posted by bustr
The writers of Battle Star set the numbers. 50,000 live human bodies. Add up all the possible ship loss accidents not counting fighting the cylons, then throw in combat losses and you may be getting down close to first cousin genetics problems to revitalise the human race. Down the road you still may loose the human race because of the gentics problems.

My O'lady is Washington Mutual's West coast Instructional Training Designer. We are both 50. They don't pay her peanuts. When I remodel our house, she's up to her arm pits in everything I'm working on. She's my partner in life. I wash dishes, wash cloths, wash windows, sew clothing, interior decorate, tend my garden, change cat litter, put the toilet seat down and have held teaching credentials in two schools of Japanese Swordsmanship and trained female and male students. Both sexes bleed the same.

Chairboy, you got a point, or you wanna keep insulting my O'lady's lifetime opinion of me?

Hell, if I wuz yer wife, I'd never let yah do anything unsupervised and relegate you to all the stuff I hate doing.. wash dishes, change the cat litter, do the laundry, sew buttons and mow the lawn.

I'd have a very high lifetime opinion of you, too.

Yep.. you have a very fortunate (smart) wife. You are, in the parlance of one woman I know all too well.. "a keeper".

Now, put the lid down and get your feet off the furniture.

Vulcan · « **Reply #24 on:** August 09, 2005, 10:54:44 PM »

Yeah but is she green?

Pooh21 · « **Reply #25 on:** August 10, 2005, 01:02:32 AM »

star wars chicks are better then star trek ones
who wants a woman whose face can put your eye out literally, with one of her nose bumps, or forehead ridges, plus half of them have nasty liver spots going around their faces.

Hangtime · « **Reply #26 on:** August 10, 2005, 01:39:29 AM »

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Originally posted by Vulcan
Yeah but is she green?

Yep. But she's aged about 30 years since that episode..

...the green ones don't age well...

... at all.

CyranoAH · « **Reply #27 on:** August 10, 2005, 03:51:28 AM »

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Originally posted by Hangtime
The President's assistant.. the dweeb with the hots fer the cute green eyed black bridge talker.

Actually I was talking about Cally. It may seem that she kills Boomer-Galactica out of rage, but I think there's more to it than meets the eye.

Remember during the attack on the Cylon AA position on Kobol, Number Six tells the Doctor that someone from the team would rise against them.

Follow me here... I'm excluding the possibility that a) The Dr is bananas and imagining the whole thing and b) Number Six can foresee the future.

Sooo how does a Cylon know what's going to happen? Because another cylon is going to trigger it. Who does? Cally does when she refuses to comply with the LT's order, forcing the situation that ends up with the Dr. killing Crashdown.

Now, in the last ep, Boomer-Galactica spews it all out, and looks like she can deliver more information about the cylons onboard Galactica. Then Cally shoots her and kills her. Coincidence? I am guessing not.

My list so far: Aaron Doral (the PR guy), Leoben Conoy (the philosopher), Boomer, Number Six, Cally... and I'm guessing Laura Roslin. Yep, the President herself... too convenient that she's having visions and is sooo determined to carry out her "mission" in the prophecies.

Again, this should belong in another thread, but couldn't resist.

Carry on.

Daniel

lazs2 · « **Reply #28 on:** August 10, 2005, 08:14:35 AM »

bustr... there is one space opera that doesn't promote socialism or even government and.... it believes in the human right to arm yourself...

Firelfly... Best Sci fi series I have ever seen.

I believe the problem with sci fi is that it is... well... written by autors... authors with a liberal education and probably no real life experiance... authors who probly struggled and starved for a long time till they made it (if they ever did) and thought "gee.. wouldn't it be nice if great people like myself were subsidised byu a kinder and more understanding government?"

lazs

FiLtH · « **Reply #29 on:** August 10, 2005, 08:25:04 AM »

Are replicators, replicated? If not who builds them? Slaves in the salt mines of Talas 4?