ENY is CARP

[101ABN]

Originally posted by Zazen13
Hahahahaha, ok, you guys had almost as many people throughout the entire night as Rooks and Bishops combined and you think it's wrong you had an ENY handicap?!?! All that silly handicap meant from our perspective was we got to get vulched by Knight La5's instead of Knight La7's, either way we were going to get vulched, no doubt about it. I sure didn't see any Knights or Knight squadrons move to an under-manned team to improve arena gameplay balance. I just saw you guys steamrolling, vulching and gang-hording in your 30+ ENY rides...I don't care, we had fun in our own way too, but to say you don't deserve the ENY penalty because Knights only managed to have a few more bases than Rooks or Bish with those huge numbers is...well...STUPID!


Zazen

I never once said that we didnt "deserve" a penalty.  The eny effects players in different ways.  One, it increases the price for uber rides for the country that happens to have more players online, then it lowers the price for uber rides for the undermanned country.  This I agree with!  But setting the bar to the point that all i have available is a p40.... thats just nuts. Im just seeing the "happy medium" for this issue.... and crying a bit here.  

Getting vulched happens all the time, reguardless to who has more folks or who is winning.  Look out the tower windows for some situational awareness before upping, and if you fly into a swarm of bad guys alone, well thats just plain stupid.

[101ABN]

Originally posted by FiLtH
At this time rooks 105, bish 90 and knits 179...choke on it.

choke on it?  thats all you can come up with?  

[Max]

Proposal for next Tour - eliminate all perk tariffs & ENY side balancing. It's like trying to regulate the economy...doesn't work.

my two cents....

DmdMax

[Kev367th]

Well I know earlier that the Knits had an ENY of 41+!!!!

Can't remeber the exact numbers but you must have had way bigger numbers.
Solution is easy go to either Rook or Bish (you can swap back after 3 or 6 hours), we weren't ENY'ed at all, and all perky stuff was on the sale shelf.

Quite frankly I don't see the fun flying for a side that outnumbers both other sides put together.
Can earn more perks (if thats what your after) much more quickly on the lower numbered teams.

Basically the solution is your hands, you choose not to do it, your choice, no-one forces you on the highest numbered team.

[TrueKill]

Originally posted by Kev367th
Solution is easy go to either Rook or Bish (you can swap back after 3 or 6 hours) Basically the solution is your hands, you choose not to do it, your choice, no-one forces you on the highest numbered team.

That whole "then swich sides" thing is stupid. I like flying with the team that I choose. Why should I switch over to the team that I fight agenst to help them? IMO the EMY dosent work. So what if you take away all the "good planes" your ganna have the same amount of ppl flying just in planes with a lesser EMY. If the EMY thing has to be how it is you should beable to fly the perked AC even if the EMY is set to 50+. If I want to get in a 150+perked tiger then thats my problem. You shouldnt punnish a team jsut cuz its winning but heres something else, what if a team is down to -10 fields and the others have lets say +50 why not disable the "good planes" so the other country has a fighting chance. It the same thing as the ENY we have now some why cant we have that one?

[Kev367th]

Whole point is you have choices.
You are not being 'forced' to play any one way, you play depending on the choice you make.

True 30+ P-40s is still a hoard, what would you rather have coming at you, 30+ p40s or 30+ mix of La7, Tiffys, Ponys etc?

[Morpheus]

Originally posted by TrueKill
That whole "then swich sides" thing is stupid. I like flying with the team that I choose. Why should I switch over to the team that I fight agenst to help them? IMO the EMY dosent work. So what if you take away all the "good planes" your ganna have the same amount of ppl flying just in planes with a lesser EMY. If the EMY thing has to be how it is you should beable to fly the perked AC even if the EMY is set to 50+. If I want to get in a 150+perked tiger then thats my problem. You shouldnt punnish a team jsut cuz its winning but heres something else, what if a team is down to -10 fields and the others have lets say +50 why not disable the "good planes" so the other country has a fighting chance. It the same thing as the ENY we have now some why cant we have that one?

Yeah:aok

[TrueKill]

Originally posted by Kev367th
True 30+ P-40s is still a hoard, what would you rather have coming at you, 30+ p40s or 30+ mix of La7, Tiffys, Ponys etc?

um ill take the lgay tiffs and ponys.......my 109F4 can handle them.

[Wilbus]

It's 5 hours for a switch.

[DipStick]

Funny... I never even noticed ENY. I was having a blast furballing near A1 and then south of A44.

to all those who participated. It was a fun time.

[Zazen13]

Originally posted by 101ABN
I never once said that we didnt "deserve" a penalty.  The eny effects players in different ways.  One, it increases the price for uber rides for the country that happens to have more players online, then it lowers the price for uber rides for the undermanned country.  This I agree with!  But setting the bar to the point that all i have available is a p40.... thats just nuts. Im just seeing the "happy medium" for this issue.... and crying a bit here.  

Getting vulched happens all the time, reguardless to who has more folks or who is winning.  Look out the tower windows for some situational awareness before upping, and if you fly into a swarm of bad guys alone, well thats just plain stupid.

Sorry friend but if you want to be on a team that outnumbers both the other teams combined that's the price you must pay. It's not our rule, it's HiTech's. When you have those kind of numbers it really doesn't matter what you are flying. They are all equally good at vulching numerically overwhelmed people on the runway.

Zazen

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Kev367th


True 30+ P-40s is still a hoard, what would you rather have coming at you, 30+ p40s or 30+ mix of La7, Tiffys, Ponys etc?

When it comes to that kind of numbers imbalance.
At that point
It dosnt matter.

A horde is a horde is a horde

[Widewing]

This kind of crybaby nonsense borders on rediculous.. Learn to fly the less uber fighters for cryin'-out-loud! Learn enough ACM so that you don't need the high-speed crutches.... Geez....

The following aircraft have ENY values of 40 or higher:
P-47D-11
Bf 109G-6
Bf 109G-2
Bf 109F-4
F4U-1
C.205
P-38G
Ki-61
Mosquito
FM-2
C.202
Bf 110C-4b
F4F-4
Bf 109E-4
P-40E
A6M2
Spit MkI
Hurri MkI
Hurri MkIID
P-40B

The first 10 are very capable aircraft and damn fun to fly.

Now, if the ENY penalty drops to 35, you can add these:
P-51B
P-38J
P-47D-25
Fw 190A-5
Fw 190F-8
Hurri IIC

Pause and consider that the P-51B offers performance as good as anything in the game. Its limitation is 4 mgs and limited ammo and only 1k of bombs. In the hands of a decent pilot, the P-38J is a monster and can haul 2k of bombs. Likewise, the P-47D-25 can haul bombs, 2.5k plus 8 heavy machine guns and 3,400 rounds of ammo.

Personally, I suggest that you broaden your horizons or switch to a side with less people. I'm sorry your vulch-o-matic ride isn't available during prime time, life sometimes bites.

My regards,

Widewing

[Morpheus]

Originally posted by TrueKill
um ill take the lgay tiffs and ponys.......my 109F4 can handle them.

Then whats your problem? If your man enough to fly an F4, you're not man enough to hold your whines about ENY back?

[SuperDud]

Originally posted by Widewing
This kind if crybaby nonsense borders on rediculous.. Learn to fly the less uber fighters for cryin'-out-loud! Learn enough ACM so that you don't need the high-speed crutches.... Geez.......
  ...Pause and consider that the P-51B offers performance as good as anything in the game. Its limitation is 4 mgs and limited ammo and only 1k of bombs. In the hands of a decent pilot, the P-38J is a monster and can haul 2k of bombs. Likewise, the P-47D-25 can haul bombs, 2.5k plus 8 heavy machine guns and 3,400 rounds of ammo.

Personally, I suggest that you broaden your horizons or switch to a side with less people. I'm sorry your vulch-o-matic ride isn't available during prime time, life sometimes bites.

My regards,

Widewing

Well put WW