ENY is CARP

[elc7367b]

I agree with Zazen on this one.  Last night when I logged on after work, the Knights had enough players to take on a two front war with the Bish and Rooks and still have everything even at 1-1 odds.  Now if you take into consideration the fact that threre are those Bish and Rooks that predominently fight each other on the third front, the Knights would and could of had numbers advantages on both of their fronts.

Do I dare say it????  Is it time for a Rook/Bish alliance when those numbers are so skewed.  Only the future holds that answer.

Muttman
Sick Puppies

PS:  Can you imagine the moaning and groaning from Knitland if that ever happened?

[straffo]

Originally posted by Ack-Ack
I would like to say that I feel your pain but I would be lying.  I can however say that your whines are music to my ears and a further proof that the ENY system does work.  ....

My god this pretty simple sentence almost killed me
Perhaps is it the influence of the Sancerre I drank but damm, I didn't laught so much since a very long time !

[IownU]

the knights had a 60 eny so tell us what to fly then i dont care about it any more but it dose make it hard to do something when eny is at 60 h3ll i would have paid the 200 perkies for the tiger but cant do it we had to use m8s as flaks cause we could not get M16s no sorry LTARs dont switch sides we are Knights and always will be but just thought i would let you gents know what eny was up to Sat. but we made it and still took bases i not complaining at all i dont mind it we were shooting down planes with m8s so i guess i sayin there is ways around it plus if you log off and log back on and select a plane that orginaly would not let you host dose not have enough time to count all the players and lets you up it but you got to be fast about it hehehehe gents the last two days have been fun

[sullie363]

Yeah, Knights sure do have it tough these days.

[elc7367b]

LTARkilz remarks reminded me of the war move "Enemy at the Gates" concerning the duel between a german and russian sniper.  In the early stages of the movie, the young russian soldiers are forced into combat with "One man given a rifle, the other man ammunition.  When the man with the rifle falls, the man with the ammunition picks it up".  

Goes to show you that with large numbers, it doesnt matter what type of equipment you have, sheer numbers will prevail.

Muttman
Sick Puppies

[Ack-Ack]

Hmmm...from that screenshot, it looks like a few might have been vulching buddies or 2nd accounts.


ack-ack

[killnu]

akak, bet that was saintan upping bombers   in hangar at capped field then ejecting(enterx3) and giving proxies left and right.


squaddie had this happen other day, we left and asked him to quit...he logged.

[elc7367b]

Unless Saintan has a second account none of those listed with all those gross kills logged them against him.  

I find it hard to figure out how they got so many kills unless they repeatedly hotpadded and returned to the fight.  If you also take into consideration the large numbers of other knights involved in a vulch there would have been lots of competition for those kills.

To do that and then land them all together, especially not being in the same squad, seems to me would be a logistical nightmare or pure coincidence.  There would had to have been some form of coordination in that effort.  To all of you scoring those kills if they were legit, a big to you.  If however, they were not, shame on you.

Muttman
Sick Puppies

[Vortex]

Originally posted by AKFokerFoder+
I fly the 109F4 as my main ride also. So ENY has little effect on me.

I think that as a means of controlling numbers, the ENY has not been that successful, as numbers over the last week or so have testified.  I do hear a lot of complaining about it on the Knight text and vox channels, but I see little in the way of BBS response from the Knights.  

My squad is based as Knights, and I'll jump in as one who supports the eny limiter. I'm not sure how long its been in place (I just re-activated my account a week or so ago) but if its only been a short while, one may want to give it more time before concluding success or failure.

You raise a good point in the horde mentality though. Eny restrictions may not, in the end, fix that. An alternative may be to go the other way and remove/lessen the restiction more dramatically on the out numbered side(s). I really think the combined format that's in place right now is best. However folks often hate to be forced down a specific path. And restricting anything invariably does that. The old honey rather than vinegar thing. Problem i most of this stuff is just a short term fix. The next day, everyone just moves back and the cycle starts again.

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by elc7367b


To do that and then land them all together, especially not being in the same squad, seems to me would be a logistical nightmare or pure coincidence.  There would had to have been some form of coordination in that effort.  To all of you scoring those kills if they were legit, a big to you.  If however, they were not, shame on you.

Muttman
Sick Puppies

From that screen shot it appears the only one that had legitimate kills was JB77, although I am willing to bet that 95% of those kills were from vulching but still, a legitimate kill and great job for pulling it off.

The other three however...well, it looks like they're nothing but a bunch of little score potatos.  They seem to have an affinity for vulching bombers, in particular Lancasters.  Although it does seem that FBHerbie did branch out and use the La7 and IL2 to help pad his score.  These weren't proxies as proxies don't show on the kill stats.


ack-ack

[hubsonfire]

It's been this way a while, Vortex, but the whining dies down, typically, until numbers swing pretty far out of balance. The guys who enjoyed running around in a mob find they're not so terrifying in spit1s and P40s, and get fairly upset.

I still like it, but I'm a mindless furballer lacking ethics, character, and loyalty to people who deem personally identifying with a cartoon symbol rendered over a cartoon plane to be a deadly serious affair.

[Warchief]

I fly for Bish and have been. I find this funny when the Rooks or Bish have the ENY limiter they arent making post complaining. Seems that those complaining about dont like the fact of having 30+ eny limited pilots to face one rook or Bish pilot. Hell you can enact ENY limit the Bish most likely aint going to affect my primary fighter the Hurricane MkIIC. I was flying at A4 tonight against the knits. I had around 10 planes and 15-20 gv's behind and in front of my plane around 20 110's and 190's. The knits had enough to have 2-3 aircraft fighting one Bish and still have left over pilots to hit town and airfield at the same time. I have a feeling if those complaining about it had to face the numbers the Bish and rooks have of late they would be crying for a tighter ENY limit. IN the end I find it funny that some knits are complaining that they cant have around 30 Spit 9's or in that area of eny to face half that number of Bish or Rooks.

[Krusty]

Last week I was knit and the ENY started kicking in. Before it did I was having a little fun spending what few perks I had on a Ta152. Had some fights but no kills, landed and was going to reup but got the ENY message (it was barely even on, but it didn't let me have the Ta). So I upped a Ki61, and wound up having one of the best 1v1 dogfights I've had in a long long time (fun-wise). Were it not for ENY I'd have been 20K looking for lone gunmen bombers and an orbiting timid 190. But thanks to ENY I had a blast.

"ENY Helped me, and it can help you, too! Ask me how! You see, I'm not just an ENY For Knit member, I'm one of the contributors!"

[elc7367b]

I tend to agree ACK-ACK.  I want to avoid blatantly labeling someone as padding a score unless I have absolute first hand knowledge.  I feel without that at least they deserve the benefit of the doubt.  I am sure its been done before but 30+ kills in a fighter (assuming one sortie no rearm) stretches the limits of my imagination.  But, hey, I wasnt there, I wasnt privy to what happened therefore the caveat.

Muttman
Sick Puppies

[Stang]

Just re-arm and you can kill forever, gets real boring and the fights don't tend to last long enough for it though.