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Offline Hangtime

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« Reply #60 on: August 16, 2005, 08:16:58 PM »
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umm
you guys could take on all the rest of the worlds navies combined with just your Arleigh Burks
Or just your SSNs
Or just your carriers.
Or just your CGs.

WTF you need more of anything for.


Hey Pongo!! How the hell are yah?

The Navy needs redundancy. Lots and lots and lots of redundancy. "Why?" you ask? Well, because they have lots and lots and lots of sailors.

And a few marines.

Since the marines absolutely detest being toted around by the Army and Airforce, and since the Navy doesn't particularly like toting them around either, the Navy requires lots and lots and lots of ships and sailors so some of them can do other things besides toting marines around.

These surplus sailors generally chip paint, sterilize and repaint ships that just came back from toting marines or cook and deliver food and medical supplies for the sailors that are currently usefully employed in actually toting around the marines. Most sailors, after having done duty toting marines around are either decorated & promoted if they are still cohernt or discharged with medical pensions following mental and physical stress relevant to marine toting.

So you see, we really do need a big Navy.
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« Reply #61 on: August 16, 2005, 08:35:38 PM »
Actually..we work well with the Marines nowadays...They are our landlubbing brothers.

We could do away with the other two services and just enlarge the Navy/Marine team and get a more organized and effective fighting force under ONE department..all the "joint ops" BS could go away. No more fighting over the budget.

After all supposedly we already have more aircraft than the Air Farce and we all know that Marines are more effective than the Army :D
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« Reply #62 on: August 16, 2005, 08:37:24 PM »
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Actually..we work well with the Marines nowadays...They are our landlubbing brothers.

We could do away with the other two services and just enlarge the Navy/Marine team and get a more organized and effective fighting force under ONE department..all the "joint ops" BS could go away. No more fighting over the budget.

After all supposedly we already have more aircraft than the Air Farce and we all know that Marines are more effective than the Army :D


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« Reply #63 on: August 16, 2005, 08:42:56 PM »
Sounds like an excellent idea. The Chair Farce has nothin to do since the soviets hung up the gloves and the Army would rather be hanging around the barracks where there's hot food, running water and left over fleet week centerfold magazines.

Let the Navy and the mean little dudes with funny hats and bald heads dick around with with the pointy end of the stick for awile.

 ;)
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« Reply #64 on: August 16, 2005, 08:57:34 PM »
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Sounds like an excellent idea. The Chair Farce has nothin to do since the soviets hung up the gloves and the Army would rather be hanging around the barracks where there's hot food, running water and left over fleet week centerfold magazines.

Let the Navy and the mean little dudes with funny hats and bald heads dick around with with the pointy end of the stick for awile.

 ;)


I'll have you know that when I first enlisted in the Marines I could not put my head in a jar!

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« Reply #65 on: August 16, 2005, 09:02:30 PM »
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I'll have you know that when I first enlisted in the Marines I could not put my head in a jar!


I like the mostly dis-used term "Leatherneck" for Marines...It's not deroggatory but actually a historical nickname.
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« Reply #66 on: August 16, 2005, 09:33:57 PM »
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I like the mostly dis-used term "Leatherneck" for Marines...It's not deroggatory but actually a historical nickname.


yup :aok

For those that don't know the term "Leatherneck" comes from the Marines OLD blues uniforms from the Colonial days.  Marines used to actually have leather in their collar to help prevent cuts while fighting.

There's alot of history in the uniform, the "Blues" jacket has the raised color in it still to represent the old leather.  Officers still have a sewed in pattern on the tops of their hats called a "quatrifoil" that was used to help Identify them to snipers in the ships riggings.
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« Reply #67 on: August 16, 2005, 09:35:53 PM »
Whats crap sound like when it hits a fan??

"mmmaaaaaaaarrrrrrriiiiiiinnnn nnneeeeee"

In the land of bad things, we called the mean little dudes with big guns and all the white jets buzzin round 'em 'salamander packers'. I dunno why... mighta had something to do with the funny papers they squinted at, turning 'em round and round while yapping into the radios they always seemed to have stacked up 2 deep all around 'em.

In fact, I remember speculating that the reason why the white jets were always around 'em was because the Navy just didn't trust 'em alone in the woods with their radios... obviously they wanted the radios back.

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« Reply #68 on: August 16, 2005, 09:51:38 PM »
but anyway back to ships...The LCS-1 "USS FREEDOM" is under construction now. It is one of two designs. I'm pretty sure it's the Lockheed design they are building. They are detailing the first crew now, and the ship should be ready late 2006 according to the press releases. The crew for LCS-2 shuld be put together soon and I expect this one will be the other design. Too bad DD(X) is so delayed..looking at like 2012 at the earliest for that one.

LCS INFO
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« Reply #69 on: August 16, 2005, 10:10:34 PM »
Jezzzuzus Cripes inna Mae West....

Navy's new LCS

...that thing looks like a Chris Craft! We'll be the biggest baddddest Tuna Killers on the planet! ;)
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« Reply #70 on: August 16, 2005, 10:16:40 PM »
I was just going to mention that the Navy would be much
better served by newer faster transports than super duper
surface warfare vessels.

     How else we supposed to get all the junk the Army/Corps
need to operate over to the combat zones?
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« Reply #71 on: August 16, 2005, 10:25:37 PM »
Well, the marines get around on one of these..



While the navy is kind enuff to make these available for transporting the Army around.

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« Reply #72 on: August 16, 2005, 10:31:59 PM »
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I was just going to mention that the Navy would be much
better served by newer faster transports than super duper
surface warfare vessels.

     How else we supposed to get all the junk the Army/Corps
need to operate over to the combat zones?


Here ya go

LPD-17 USS SAN ANTONIO
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« Reply #73 on: August 16, 2005, 11:10:28 PM »
for some reason, warships without guns reminds me of a similar airforce boondoggle called a Phantom.

besides... what third world sand bandit would be intimidated by a big flat-assed apparently unarmed Bayliner charging around offshore? And what're they gonna use for close in defense... the midship watch with 9mm's?
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« Reply #74 on: August 16, 2005, 11:14:29 PM »
LPD-17 uses the SSDS MK-II self defense system..if you look on the port forward end of the superstructure you see a RAM launcher...close in defense better that the Phalanx CIWS.
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