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Offline Raider179

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« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2005, 11:45:17 AM »
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Did it say the silencer was ilegal?


He MAY own it legaly. It is possible.


He may very well, but that doesnt change the fact he took police on a high-speed chase. Wonder why he didnt get a GSR test when it happened or if he only became a suspect later on.

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« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2005, 12:10:44 PM »
The high speed chase is wacky.

Still being a wack job doesnt mean he shot it down?

I think he prolly did, but It will be interesting to see the evidence they present if this doesnt drop off the radar.

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« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2005, 12:27:48 PM »
it all sounds pretty freakin strange.

Good lesson for dealing with investigators asking leading questions they already know the answers to.... Moral: keep yer trap shut when being quizzed during the course of a criminal investigation & insist on all the forms of protection vis a vis laywers & warrants.
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« Reply #18 on: August 17, 2005, 02:38:22 PM »
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He may very well, but that doesnt change the fact he took police on a high-speed chase. Wonder why he didnt get a GSR test when it happened or if he only became a suspect later on.


I don't see any probable cause for arrest yet in the article. There has to be quite a bit that hasn't been published.

There was no "chase" listed in the article. He was trailed by undercover, or plain clothes Officers in plain cars. Given that circumstance they can't claim a chase or pusuit as you need marked vehicles for that. If they chased him they may well have violated their own regs and rules. In my old hometown that would be the case. If I saw some strange civilian car following me I'd be heading out away from him and getting distance between the two of us.

Usnig a statement like they did in the article really doesn't constitute cause for arrest or even a warrant. Again there has to be more going on here.
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« Reply #19 on: August 17, 2005, 02:46:39 PM »
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« Reply #20 on: August 17, 2005, 03:03:43 PM »
Their evidence is that he had empty ammo cans?  I have some that I use for storage.  He eluded UNMARKED police cars?  That doesn't even bear response.

Hopefully that can do ballistics on the bullet.  If it turns out it came from a pistol, for example, then maybe we'll see an apology.  If he did it, they'd better get some better evidence.
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« Reply #21 on: August 17, 2005, 03:27:15 PM »
a 500 yard shot with a silenced 'assault rifle', at night; with the chopper at about 400-500 foot elevation.

Would like to actually see the evidence.. the rifle; the silencer, etc

A bolt action sniper rifle with proper optics.. I could see that... but an open sight or standard scope 'assault' rifle with a silencer at that range, from a standing position, at night?

I don't think I could make that shot.

But again.. would like to see what the police actually got in the way of evidence.
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« Reply #22 on: August 17, 2005, 03:35:37 PM »
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« Reply #23 on: August 17, 2005, 03:38:57 PM »
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a 500 yard shot with a silenced 'assault rifle', at night; with the chopper at about 400-500 foot elevation.

Would like to actually see the evidence.. the rifle; the silencer, etc

A bolt action sniper rifle with proper optics.. I could see that... but an open sight or standard scope 'assault' rifle with a silencer at that range, from a standing position, at night?

I don't think I could make that shot.

But again.. would like to see what the police actually got in the way of evidence.


Not to down you any but

"ex-Marine Corps marksmanship instructor" is part of his resume.

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« Reply #24 on: August 17, 2005, 03:50:33 PM »
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« Reply #25 on: August 17, 2005, 03:52:36 PM »
"ex-marine corps marksmanship instructor" don't mean diddly if the shot was outside the capability of the weapon and ammo.

factor in conditions..

seems mighty iffy. again, would like to see the weapon in question. An 'Assault Rifle' ain't much of a precison distance weapon.
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« Reply #26 on: August 17, 2005, 03:53:49 PM »
maybe he was the same guy that shot down the apache with an ak47 in disguise?
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« Reply #27 on: August 17, 2005, 03:57:55 PM »
Maybe it was the pilots own sidearm going off?:D

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« Reply #28 on: August 17, 2005, 03:58:29 PM »
maybe it was a hummingbird called 'Pedro'?
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« Reply #29 on: August 17, 2005, 04:02:38 PM »
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I like how you give this guy the benefit of the doubt and instead make the police look like they are just harassing him. "

i would be disgusted if this DIDNT happen, to ANYONE under investigation by the police.