Sniper downs helicopter

[Hangtime]

Raider, you just moved from being a minor annoyance to something else again entirely. And it ain't good.

I'd like you to think about what you just posted, I'd like you to show a little respect for a vet, and I'd like very much for you to stop doing everything you can to put this guy's personal battle for his sanity and dignity in as poor a light as possible.

Can you do that?

[WindX]

If posting the truth about the guy makes Raider a bad person then all I can say is RAIDER YOUR GOING TO HELL and  I'll probably be right there beside you! It is a shame that the guy is disturbed but in no way did I see any evidence of Raider demeaning the guy or making fun of him. I only saw facts that were represented and in  no way  did they appear derogatory. People again blowing things out of proportion on the AH Days of our lives BBS.

[Habu]

Originally posted by Hangtime
don't need to. I think yer guilty. By yer rules, that's all that's necessary.

Like I said.. it's yer foxhole. You dug it. Live in it.  

Cheers!!

So by your logic then Muslim men between 20 and 30 who have travelled to Pakistan and Afganistan in the past 3 years should not be singled out for special scrutiny when they travel as they have done nothing wrong?

You should move to Canada. That is what they think here. Better we offend no one by treating everyone equal. And make sure you search that 80 year old WASP Grandmother extra careful as her ticket number was randomly flagged.

[Hangtime]

Originally posted by WindX
If posting the truth about the guy makes Raider a bad person then all I can say is RAIDER YOUR GOING TO HELL and  I'll probably be right there beside you! It is a shame that the guy is disturbed but in no way did I see any evidence of Raider demeaning the guy or making fun of him. I only saw facts that were represented and in  no way  did they appear derogatory. People again blowing things out of proportion on the AH Days of our lives BBS.

Kewl. Shall we discuss your history of bedwetting, thumbsucking or nose picking next? I'bve got yer records right here. All of 'em. Every last disgusting and embarassing little detail. In fact I can fill pages about your less than stellar record as a citizen. All I have to do is start typing.

I'm sure everybody here would just love to hear about what it is that makes you tick.. and you'd be real hard pressed to prove any of it is wrong. You see I know who you are, what you've done and it ain't pretty, escpecilly the way I'll present it.

Surely you wouldn't mind us discussing freely all your personal problems here, hmmmmmm?

One more time for the slow people.. show a lil respect for a wounded vet. The system has him, let the system try him on the merits of the case, rather than gleefully trashing him in public.

[Hangtime]

Originally posted by Habu
So by your logic then Muslim men between 20 and 30 who have travelled to Pakistan and Afganistan in the past 3 years should not be singled out for special scrutiny when they travel as they have done nothing wrong?

You should move to Canada. That is what they think here. Better we offend no one by treating everyone equal. And make sure you search that 80 year old WASP Grandmother extra careful as her ticket number was randomly flagged.

Enh?

Sorry Habu, can't make the connection.

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Got the right quote?

[GtoRA2]

Originally posted by WindX
If posting the truth about the guy makes Raider a bad person then all I can say is RAIDER YOUR GOING TO HELL and  I'll probably be right there beside you! It is a shame that the guy is disturbed but in no way did I see any evidence of Raider demeaning the guy or making fun of him. I only saw facts that were represented and in  no way  did they appear derogatory. People again blowing things out of proportion on the AH Days of our lives BBS.

Well other then him deciding the guy is guilty before he gets convicted.

[Raider179]

Originally posted by Hangtime
Raider, you just moved from being a minor annoyance to something else again entirely. And it ain't good.

I'd like you to think about what you just posted, I'd like you to show a little respect for a vet, and I'd like very much for you to stop doing everything you can to put this guy's personal battle for his sanity and dignity in as poor a light as possible.

Can you do that?

You are reading way too much into my posts. I just posted info about the guy. I did not trash him nor is that my intent. I got attacked for being anti-gun, I got attacked for saying he was guilty of shooting at the helicopter, Now I get attacked for disrespecting a vet.  

Maybe you didnt see the thread topic but this is about the sniper who shot the helicopter. I discussed my views and supported them by what I see as evidence. Nothing more, nothing less. I think I am the only one who is still talking about the topic. Seems like the rest of you are just sitting around waiting to pounce on my opinions.

Can you stay on topic? And I will continue to not disrepect vets.

[Raider179]

Originally posted by GtoRA2
Well other then him deciding the guy is guilty before he gets convicted.

They charged him.  

I read about it and made an opinion. I thought that is what a BBS is about. Sharing and debating opinions about current events, etc...

How in the hell in a thread called Sniper downs helicopter can you chastise someone for saying who they think did it? So we should discuss it, but no one should say who they think did it?

[deSelys]

Dang!

Hangtime, Maverick and the like you sure have the Drama Queen routine down pat...

Nice of you to defend with so much energy the high morals ground. He is innocent until proven guilty.

Ok. It doesn't forbid Raider to have an opinion though.

And I don't remember such an angry reaction from your part when your government put a lot of people in Gitmo without trial.

Oh yeah, they're not white, they're not vets and they're moslems. High morals probably don't apply to them.

[Hangtime]

Well we can start with the headline 'sniper' downs helicopter.

Turns out, first guy to the scene of the crash is guess who...

..a former marine 'sniper'.

*snap*

GUILTY!!

And I don't remember such an angry reaction from your part when your government put a lot of people in Gitmo without trial.

Yup. Hope they build a new kennel soon.. understand the place is gettin kinda crowded with captured insurgents that should be walked twice a day wearing a halter and barking like a dog.

Oh yeah, they're not white, they're not vets and they're moslems. High morals probably don't apply to them.

It doesn't matter what color the dog is.

[Nilsen]

Originally posted by Hangtime
Raider, you just moved from being a minor annoyance to something else again entirely. And it ain't good.

I'd like you to think about what you just posted, I'd like you to show a little respect for a vet, and I'd like very much for you to stop doing everything you can to put this guy's personal battle for his sanity and dignity in as poor a light as possible.

Can you do that?

In all fairness hangtime, he just posted facts about a guy that is obviously not secret info.

Do vet's get some kind of special treatment just because they are vet's?

Just asking.

[bustr]

Raider and Hangtime you are both rushing to judgment of each other.

In the entirity of my posts I have never said anything to bias towards protecting this man. But Raider you are piling on with the convictions of all your earlier posts from other gun threads with your personal bias against nuts who have access to guns.

Raider and his supporters who are American. Do you beleive in our judicial system of innocent until proven guilty by a jury of your peers????? In the anonimnity of the internet you represent yourselves very much otherwise.

Your comments protected as they are on this board by the First amendment don't show any personal conviction that the constitution applies to anyone but your selves.

Raider you set yourself  to be more deserving of consitutional protections than the individual in question by your opinions and purial ability to connect dots from media releases.

Have you already convicted him of this crime based on the imperfict medium of a 3rd party? Our constitutional protection of innocent until proven guilty is specificaly to protect this man from your self richeous form of lynchery.

By launching into your opinon you are assuming yourself above this mans status and possible error in conduct, and the possibility that at some time you will be a victom of the judicial system in need of the constitutional garuntee that you are innocent until proven guilty by a jury of your peers.

You seem to enjoy the concept that odds are in your favor Hangtime won't be the deciding vote on a jury the railroads you to the grave on circumstantial evidence.

Guys aren't we just such elite and god like persons on this bord, we don't have to look anyone in the eye and pull the trigger after we reveil our true feelings to each other annonymously concerning anything.

We get to play act judge, jury and executioner while real human beings may or may not loose their lives or liberty in the real world while we lurk in the shadows of a non existant electronic world.

Raider would you enjoy being able to go to the web site of the prosicuting authority for this man and anonimously voting guilty or innocent with your internet vote based on what you have read become the basis for judging his guilt or innocence?

You have already performed that chore short of casting an actual vote..........

[Thrawn]

The dude is totally guilty.  Guiltyville: popluation...Kerns.

[Raider179]

Originally posted by bustr
Raider and Hangtime you are both rushing to judgment of each other.

In the entirity of my posts I have never said anything to bias towards protecting this man. But Raider you are piling on with the convictions of all your earlier posts from other gun threads with your personal bias against nuts who have access to guns.

Raider and his supporters who are American. Do you beleive in our judicial system of innocent until proven guilty by a jury of your peers????? In the anonimnity of the internet you represent yourselves very much otherwise.

Your comments protected as they are on this board by the First amendment don't show any personal conviction that the constitution applies to anyone but your selves.

Raider you set yourself  to be more deserving of consitutional protections than the individual in question by your opinions and purial ability to connect dots from media releases.

Have you already convicted him of this crime based on the imperfict medium of a 3rd party? Our constitutional protection of innocent until proven guilty is specificaly to protect this man from your self richeous form of lynchery.

By launching into your opinon you are assuming yourself above this mans status and possible error in conduct, and the possibility that at some time you will be a victom of the judicial system in need of the constitutional garuntee that you are innocent until proven guilty by a jury of your peers.

You seem to enjoy the concept that odds are in your favor Hangtime won't be the deciding vote on a jury the railroads you to the grave on circumstantial evidence.

Guys aren't we just such elite and god like persons on this bord, we don't have to look anyone in the eye and pull the trigger after we reveil our true feelings to each other annonymously concerning anything.

We get to play act judge, jury and executioner while real human beings may or may not loose their lives or liberty in the real world while we lurk in the shadows of a non existant electronic world.

Raider would you enjoy being able to go to the web site of the prosicuting authority for this man and anonimously voting guilty or innocent with your internet vote based on what you have read become the basis for judging his guilt or innocence?

You have already performed that chore short of casting an actual vote..........

You want to point out where in the Constitution it says "Innocent until proven guilty"???

Because that is not what it says. What it does say is " nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law" and as you can see  I am clearly not depriving him of any of those.

Yeah my opinion that he was the one who fired the shots at the helicopter "sets myself to be more deserving of constitutional protections". Ok So again show me where in the Constitution it says Innocent until proven guilty...

This is not a Criminal trial. This is A BBS.

[Hangtime]

It's the Law.

Supreme Court, 1894; Coffin vs US. Citing the 14th ammendment to the Constitution of the United States of America. In penning the Majority Decison for Supreme Court case, Chief Justice White clearly makes the connection with 'due process' and the exact phraseology of "Innocent untill Proven Guilty".