P40's next!

[SkyChimp]

p40's need remod too!:D

[Grits]

I second that, and request the F and N models while they are at it.

[o0Stream140o]

Originally posted by Grits
I second that, and request the F and N models while they are at it.

I'll jump on the bandwagon... Just having the F model would do.

[Ted Strykker]

Acording too Eric Schilling the B model was the best P-40.

[StarOfAfrica2]

Ah, but he didnt have to survive in the MA.  

[Ted Strykker]

The B had self sealing fuel tanks.While we are on the subject;the skins for the P-40-B in AH-2 are russian.According too my research the only models we sent the russians were the C models.

And Eric Schilling dealt with real life situations not some GAME.

If he says the B,then i fly the B model.

[TimRas]

Originally posted by Ted Strykker

And Eric Schilling dealt with real life situations not some GAME.

The real life P-40B's of AVG did not meet N1K2's or Ki-84's, not even Zeros. They encountered Ki-27's , that had fixed landing gears, two small calibre machine guns and top speed below 300mph. Even P-40B looks good in that company...

[Grits]

Originally posted by Ted Strykker
The B had self sealing fuel tanks.

Um...it was the first one, not the only one. In addition, the B's had the less desireable exterior sealing and not the preferred internal sealing. Also the AVG planes were not B's or C's exactly, they were special models built using whatever spare parts Curtiss had at the moment. Thats why their planes that were in many respects C's, did not have the internal sealing, plumbing for drop tanks, or shackles for bombs, but they did have the armor in the firewall that the B's did not have.

If he says the B,then i fly the B model. [/B]

And how many guys say their plane was the best? My Dad says the A-4 Skyhawk was the best light attack plane ever built. At one time that might have been likely, but he still says it. You think its because he loves the plane because it saved his life and help him survive a war, or because he thinks that statement is true?

[Ted Strykker]

Quoted by Joel Paris:I never felt that I was a second-class citizen in a P-40. In many ways I thought the P-40 was better than the more modern fighters. I had a hell of a lot of time in a P-40, probably close to a thousand hours. I could make it sit up and talk. It was an unforgiving airplane. It had vicious stall characteristics. ...
If you knew what you were doing, you could fight a Jap on even terms, but you had to make him fight your way. He could outturn you at slow speed. You could outturn him at high speed. When you got into a turning fight with him, you dropped your nose down so you kept your airspeed up, you could outturn him. At low speed he could outroll you because of those big ailerons. They looked like barn doors on the Zero. If your speed was up over 275, you could outroll it. His big ailerons didn't have the strength to make high speed rolls ...

You could push things, too. Because you knew one thing: If you decided to go home, you could go home. He couldn't because you could outrun him. He couldn't leave the fight because you were faster. That left you in control of the fight. Mind you: The P-40 was a fine combat airplane

[Karnak]

True against the A6M.

Doesn't say very much about it against the Ki-84, P-51D, La-7 or Spitfire Mk IX though.

I would have dreaded going up against the rare late war combo of a fully functional Ki-84 and a skilled Japanese pilot in it if I were a USAAF pilot in the P-40 of your choice.

[Grits]

I dont think anybody is saying the P-40 was a bad aircraft, personally its one of my favorites.

[StarOfAfrica2]

Ted, I'd say you picked a fitting avatar.  You need to lighten up man.  Seriously.  If you cant see the humor in my statement, you are wound waaaaaaaaaay too tight.  Its fine to have someone you look up to, and want to fly what they flew and so on and etc.  Problem is, you wont ever face the same opponents your hero did, and you will just be dissapointed.  Fly what you like, its your 14.95.  I'm just sayin, respect what the AVG did but it doesnt have to tie you to one ride.  I have nothing but respect for those men, and my statement was in no way shape or form disrespectful to any of them.  I have several paintings on my walls, and a photo of a P-40 and an F4F-4 in formation.  I always tell people the P-40 is underappreciated, and I marvel at what the men who flew it accomplished.  But you still have to respect it's limits.  Because of design decisions at Curtiss, the P-40 was doomed to forever be a mid-altitude fighter that was slower than its contemporaries.  It has strengths yes.  And flown to accentuate them, its a formidable weapon.  But then so is a rock thrown from a sling if you know how to do it and have good aim.  Everything is relative.

[Ted Strykker]

Star my hero's are not the subject.I respect your opinion entirely.

The B model is a very nasty little plane.

Yes it has week guns compared too a Ki-84 or a La-7.

But IMO those 2 planes are dweeb rides that don,t really require much skill too fly.Now the B-model is about the hardest plane in this GAME too get kills in therefore making it Harder.I don't like playing a game in EASY mode.

here's 1 of my little secrets,the best way too kill a La or a 84 or any plane for that matter in a B-model with weak guns is too master shooting the other plane in the Canopy for the plane will not fly without the pilot.Granted this  manuver may get you killed more times then you kill them but it is still really,really fun too try it.

Most people dog the P-40 all day long,that IMO is because they do not know it good points,yes it is slow,prolly the slowest plane in the game IMO but that helps when people are screaming down at you and they fly right by even better.

And i did see the humor in your statement Star.


I sorry i,m just a P-40 Fanatic,sleep, dream P-40's.

[Karnak]

You want slow?  Try flying the Hurricane Mk I or Mk IId.  Your P-40 will feel pretty dang fast after that.

There are a lot of fine fighters in AH that are under appriciated and that says nothing about how they did in WWII and everything about how they do in AH.


Though I am amused at you're labeling the Ki-84 as a dweeb plane as it is a death trap for newbies.

[Xjazz]

Originally posted by Ted Strykker
Star my hero's are not the subject.I respect your opinion entirely.

The B model is a very nasty little plane.

Yes it has week guns compared too a Ki-84 or a La-7.

But IMO those 2 planes are dweeb rides that don,t really require much skill too fly.Now the B-model is about the hardest plane in this GAME too get kills in therefore making it Harder.I don't like playing a game in EASY mode.

here's 1 of my little secrets,the best way too kill a La or a 84 or any plane for that matter in a B-model with weak guns is too master shooting the other plane in the Canopy for the plane will not fly without the pilot.Granted this  manuver may get you killed more times then you kill them but it is still really,really fun too try it.

Most people dog the P-40 all day long,that IMO is because they do not know it good points,yes it is slow,prolly the slowest plane in the game IMO but that helps when people are screaming down at you and they fly right by even better.

And i did see the humor in your statement Star.


I sorry i,m just a P-40 Fanatic,sleep, dream P-40's.

You had that famous P40B (you) vs A6M2 (Raptor01) duel already?