Author Topic: Why is it that bombers ARE SO EASY to get shot down? (Read 1863 times)

Hoarach · « **Reply #15 on:** August 21, 2005, 02:40:29 PM »

I wouldn say size always matter because its more about the velocity of the gun. Yea size is better in some cases with a 20mm compared to a 30mm but if its a low velocity 30mm i would fear a high velocity 20mm first.

For example the nik has a low velocity 20mm cannon so the bullets drop more and dont do the damage compared to the high velocity cannon that the british planes have. So the british hispanos would do more damage than the japanese cannons.

FalconSix · « **Reply #16 on:** August 21, 2005, 05:36:05 PM »

After studying AARs and downed allied bombers the Germans concluded it took 10-20 20mm hits or 3-5 30mm hits to down a four-engined bomber.

Ted Strykker · « **Reply #17 on:** August 21, 2005, 06:02:35 PM »

And you have too factor in some of those 262's had the Bk Mk 50.

1 Hit from that weapon and most planes were toast.

BTW · « **Reply #18 on:** August 21, 2005, 08:59:49 PM »

Yea them bombers die too easy. I say they make so you hit the space key and all planes within 4k yards of your bomber, disintegrate.

JB42 · « **Reply #19 on:** August 21, 2005, 09:13:26 PM »

You mean perfectly stable, no wind, no turbulence, laser guided, all firing at the same plane 50 cals isn't enough? Now you want bombers to be tougher?

Stang · « **Reply #20 on:** August 21, 2005, 10:16:26 PM »

Howitzer · « **Reply #21 on:** August 21, 2005, 11:15:11 PM »

I hope this is a troll.. I mean really, you get 12 guns compared to maybe 4 on the fighter. You get 3 planes, so actually 36 guns all firing at the same point in space converging in the same place, and those things take WAY more ammo to bring down than anything in the game. IL2s in this game take 3+ 30mm hits and keep going. The heavy bombers take at least 5, if you let someone get that close to lob 5 taters in there, you be missin wit dem lazas

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #22 on:** August 21, 2005, 11:43:32 PM »

The problem isn't that the bombers are too difficult to shoot down is that the quite a lot are using the wrong tactics to attack bombers.

Honestly, it should take any more than 3 passes to wipe out a formation in here. Bombers aren't that tough if you go about it the correct way.

ack-ack

Ted Strykker · « **Reply #23 on:** August 21, 2005, 11:45:11 PM »

Honestly Howitzer is right this is a troll.

I let the fighter get too at least 600 out and then hit the fighter
in the engine and pilots compartment.From all angles.

Suave · « **Reply #24 on:** August 22, 2005, 03:19:15 AM »

Don't forget what the 300mph wind would do to that sheet aluminum after the compartmentalized explosion severely disrupts it's integrity.

save · « **Reply #25 on:** August 22, 2005, 03:55:45 AM »

IRL it is MUCH harder to hit a target, and
get killed IRL hurts more so you tend to stay at range

Oleg · « **Reply #26 on:** August 22, 2005, 04:40:57 AM »

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Originally posted by Howitzer
I hope this is a troll.. I mean really, you get 12 guns compared to maybe 4 on the fighter. You get 3 planes, so actually 36 guns all firing at the same point in space converging in the same place, and those things take WAY more ammo to bring down than anything in the game.

All 12 guns never shoots in one direction. Usualy only half of them shoot.
Most widely used fighers has more firepower than 4x12mm.
Bomber is much larger and easier target than fighter.

Schutt · « **Reply #27 on:** August 22, 2005, 05:15:18 AM »

You ever flew a 109 with 30mm canon?

I can assure you its not easy hitting bombers with it... at least not for me. I manage to shoot 65 rounds past a bomber, eaven from close in a lot of times.

SkyWolf · « **Reply #28 on:** August 22, 2005, 07:13:50 AM »

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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
The problem isn't that the bombers are too difficult to shoot down is that the quite a lot are using the wrong tactics to attack bombers.

Honestly, it should take any more than 3 passes to wipe out a formation in here. Bombers aren't that tough if you go about it the correct way.

ack-ack

The problem with that is that sometimes I'm trying to stop a bomb drop... not just kill planes. And I'm not always 8k above them. In that instance I end up dead... but sometimes disrupt that bombing pass. Sometimes I just make the Bomber pilot laugh.

Flayed1 · « **Reply #29 on:** August 22, 2005, 09:24:38 AM »

I think bombers are about right as far a toughness go's. If the fighter pilot knows how to attack the bomber it will go down easy enough but they have to take the time to do it right. Most people just want to crawl up the rear of my bombers and I can start hitting them from 1k out.

In short if your having trouble with the durability of your bombers it sounds more like you need to work on your gunnery, start pinging the fighters and they tend to screw up the attack run on you more.