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Offline Gato

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« on: August 26, 2005, 04:28:35 PM »
I don't get into a bomber much for a couple reasons.  One, I'm not good at it ( I can't hit a barn 10 feet below me), and two I have a real problem.  :confused:

On bombing: I have been in TA, gotten to Alt, stable speed with doors open and lined up.  Calibrate and I still miss!

The other real problem is when I have the planes in auto level and jump into a gunner spot, the planes move with the guns.  When I jump back to the pilot seat, I'm going a completely different direction.  What am I doing wrong???:rolleyes:

It's not that I'm new to the game, I've played it off and on for some time now and I've always had this problem, even back in AHI.

Any and all help/advise is wanted.

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« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2005, 04:37:51 PM »
Make sure before you calibrate you open your doors bout a good 1/2 sector before your target.

And for the gunning thing, if you use rudder when your in a site you change directions.
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« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2005, 04:55:19 PM »
Thanks, but as I said, i have everything stable, alt and speed.  I have even had it that way for a full sector and am still off.

The rudders!  Okay, i will have to try and not twist my stick when gunning!

Thanks :aok

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« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2005, 04:58:24 PM »
WHat type of salvos do you use ?
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« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2005, 05:03:29 PM »
I have tried from 1 all the way up to 10.

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« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2005, 05:07:27 PM »
Second what the others said. Plus, check your true airspeed before the target comes into sight. Calibrate using a landmark at the same alt as your target before you reach your actual target. Compare the calibrated speed with your IAS. If it differs, recalibrate. Be sure you dont start the calibration process when you cannot keep the crosshairs steady on target. Pick a landmark, staedy your crosshair on it. When you feel its spot on, press Y to begin calibration, and keep going for at least 5 or 10 seconds. Check calibr. speed with IAS.

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« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2005, 05:09:38 PM »
Make sure your leval with doors open the last 5 or 10 miles  into target,,,,,use rudder trim to make last minute course adjustments

I usualy calibrate twice at least,,,,first time is about 5 miles from target,,,,,so i can then use rudder trim in bomsight to make course corrections as needed

Then i calibrate again for about 20 to 30 seconds when im about
1 min from target,,this insures little or no speed change when i drop from when i calibrated.

As far a gunnin,,,I have a twisty also,and that bothers me too,
but ive become better at avoiding rudder input...I always would rather find a gunner tho if im dealing with cons on the IP

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« Last Edit: August 26, 2005, 05:15:16 PM by Cooley »
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« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2005, 05:11:41 PM »
When you practice, start off with a large number of the smaller bombs. Salvo them all and set a delay of .07. Once your good at hitting your target with those, work your way down to larger bombers and smaller salvos. When I bomb with 1,000lbers I use salvo of 4 and a delay of .05.
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« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2005, 05:24:03 PM »
also,,
the most popular mistake made IMO, is guys rollin buffs from fields too close to the target, roll em from a base or two back
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« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2005, 05:25:31 PM »
I guess one of the problems is that I can't get the crosshairs on the target.  The clipboard sits on top and always has.  That has not changed, no matter what I've tried, even a reinstall.  So I have always used the pointer to calibrate.  And yes, I have tried to recalibrate several time.  So in short the only time I have ever hit anything was on low level carpet bombing on a town or factory.

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« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2005, 05:25:59 PM »
^ Agreed. Give yourself plenty of alt and time to line up on your target.

You know that hitting ESC will minimize the clipboard right ?

And when coming in on a target, if the skies are clear, use [ and ] to slowly zoom in on your target, zoom in all the way for best precision.
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« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2005, 05:52:43 PM »
Oh yeah, I know Esc min clipboard.  As for distance, that was why I went into TA to practice.  I could get alt and speed stable without having to worry about fighters.  I would takeoff at least 5 sectors away, level after 3 sectors and open doors when I leveled out.  Calibrate when base is in sight and once again just before dropping.  When I drop, I would drop one just before the target, one on the target and one right after the target is in the crosshairs.  Just to see how far off I was.  I would miss with all of them!

If I can't get this, I'm going to forget bombing unless it is low level carpet!

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« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2005, 05:58:27 PM »
Hmm, Im stumped, only thing I have is make sure the crosshairs have completly stopped moving when you calibrate.
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« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2005, 06:11:35 PM »
I think, from what I've read, and everyone has said, that my biggest problems is the fact that my clipboard map is covering the crosshairs and I have to use the pointer to click on target.  And as to how to fix that, I have no idea.  But it has been like that from day one. :mad:

Anyway, I will retry everything everyone says to try. :aok

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« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2005, 06:16:00 PM »
Go to the web site http://www.netaces.org and read the section on level bombing.  It may still be a bit out of date but you will probably find what you are doing wrong.  You no longer have to hold the cross hairs on a point when calibrating. Just level, open doors hit "U" to enter calibration and then "Y'" key to calibrate.  Hold the y key for at least 2 seconds - 10 seconds works well then hit u again to exit calibtation.  When you are close to target line up using the top of the cross hair and recal again..5 to 10 second cal is good.  Drop when target is in the center of the cross hair.  The cal status on the left should all be green.  There currently is no wind so bombing is VERY easy.  You can kill hangers from 30k.  Again check out the web site above.

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