China runs 2nd test of long-range missile

[Suave1]

Kuwait is far more important to us strategically than it is economically . Remember why nazi Germany went into north Africa ? The war machine still runs on petroleum . That's why we fought the USSR indirectly for 40 years in that part of the globe . If the Chinese took Taiwan it wouldn't make that much difference in the global scheme, except of course to the Taiwanese . But I don't foresee that happening . They know we don't have any qualms about sinking Chinese ships and subs or shooting down Chinese planes . We still remind them of that every few years .

[Jochen]

 

FACT: U.S. fought Vietnam with both hands and one leg behind its back

And who is to blame?

United States of America... Beak and talons of eagle but brain of chicken.

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jochen

Kids today! Why can't they fetishize Fascist military hardware like normal people?

Ladysmith wants you forthwith to come to her relief
Burn your briefs you leave for France tonight
Carefully cut the straps of the booby-traps and set the captives free
But don't shoot 'til you see her big blue eyes

[TheWobble]

Actually the Military was hindered by politics in Vietnam, It wanted to go in and just kick bellybutton but it was "unpopular" with the public, ya see in america the goverment at least listens to the voice of people.

[Toad]

OK, now it's been kicked around a bit. Time to draw the line.

GIVEN: China will eventually move to enforce its sovereignity over Taiwan.

The US has 3 choices:

1. Disregard its treaty obligations to Taiwan and allow China to reclaim Taiwan.

2. Give Taiwan nukes and let Taiwan decide its own fate.

3. Honor US treaty obligations and defend Taiwan against the Chinese with a) conventional or possibly b) nukes. This action "calls the bluff" of China's threat to nuke the US.

So, what is the correct course? Pick one please.    

[This message has been edited by Toad (edited 12-16-2000).]

[Dnil]

Ill pick number 4.

Nuke um first till they glow and make a nice big parking lot outa the area.  

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Dnil---Skyhawk until I get Dnil back
Maj. 900th Bloody Jaguars
Part time aircraft restorer. www.kingwoodcable.com/jheuer

[Dowding]

Dnil - you remind me of a sketch a few years ago, by a couple of British comics called Stephen Fry and Hugh Laurie. I think it sums up your attitude quite nicely (and the attitude of CNN et al at the time of the Gulf War).

Hugh:
My brother Oren and I would like to sing for you now, but we can't. At least my brother Oren can't, bein' as how he suffered a strange musical accident when he was young, that caused lasting and considerable damage. So if it's all the same to you, my brother Oren will just sit here and tap along to the strange rhythms in his head. This song is called "There Ain't But One Way". (Starts to play)

The world is facin' problems,
Gettin' bigger every day,
We got a greenhouse over Texas,
And recession's on the way,
There's hunger in the third world,
There's anger in the first,
Half the world is floodin',
And the other's dyin' of thirst,
But tho' people they may tell you,
That this planet's dyin' fast,
I ain't seen a problem yet,
Can't be solved by kickin' ass,
Kickin' ass!

Stephen:
Kickin' ass!

Hugh:
Kickin' bellybutton is what we do,
Kickin' ass!

Stephen:      
Kickin' ass!

Hugh:      
Iron foot in the velvet shoe,
We don't care whose bellybutton we kick,
If we're ever all alone,
We just stand in front of the mirror,
And try to kick our own,
We kicked bellybutton in Grenada
We kicked bellybutton in Iraq
We've kicked the bellybutton out of the ozone layer
Now they say we gotta kick it back,
We'll kick the bellybutton of cancer
We'll kick the bellybutton of AIDS
And as for global warming
We'll just kick bellybutton wearing shades.

Stephen:
Kickin' ass!

Hugh:
Kickin' bellybutton is what we do
Kickin' ass

Stephen:
Kickin' ass!

Hugh:
Iron foot in the velvet shoe
We don't care whose bellybutton we kick
If we're ever all alone
We just stand in front of the mirror
And try to kick our own
Yes you can move your ass
Haul your ass
And bustin' bellybutton is fine
And there ain't a better place to put your ass
Than on the line
But if you're like us
And you won't take second best
You'll just put your kickin' boots on
And kick like all the rest.

 

[Ice]

If I have to, I choose #3.

My little opinion is this...

When you fight a bully who threatens you, a very hard and deliberate punch in the nose will always cause him to rethink his options.

Gore and Clinton, I do not believe, would have stood up to China in any meaningful way.

Bush, on the other hand, is an entirely different dog. For that Im grateful.

Ltr

Ice

[Dnil]

Tongue and cheek my brit chap, tongue and cheek.  Your gonna have tons of fun in the military old chap.  

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Dnil---Skyhawk until I get Dnil back
Maj. 900th Bloody Jaguars
Part time aircraft restorer. www.kingwoodcable.com/jheuer