B-29 Super Fortress

[Nemisis]

I'd agree with you on the 30mm's spikes. IMO, the germans would have done better to arm the 262 and 163 with 4 to 6 20mm's. Even if they were MG/FF's.

As to the plane issue, that is true upto a point. If your in a 262 and use high speed BnZ's you can't be touched EXCEPT for the swarm of players filling the skys with lead, just so they can eliminate you and get back to fighting. Anything will go down if you run it up against enough guns. There is no exception to this that I can think of.

[Motherland]

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Why yes, yes it is.
(Cannot remember when this was or what the situation was, but I figured I'd post it for kicks, no harsh feelings!)

lol I remember that (a bit )

Let's just say I think there were a lot of assists on me in that engagement. lol

[guncrasher]

The only thing this game has in common with World War II are the planes we fly in here, that's it.  This game is not about World War II, it never has been and never will be.  It's about fighting using World War II planes and ground vehicles and in no way attempts to recreate anything historical in relation to World War II.

Pyro in a post many years ago, way before you started to play, mentioned in a post why they are hesitant to add the B-29 and you want to know what that reason was?  It was because it would render other bombers pretty much to hanger queen status. 

In addition, there are many more planes this game needs before it the B-29 is ever to be under consideration to be added.  We have glaring holes in both the Early War and Mid War plane sets as well as holes in certain country plane sets that need to be addressed before we add the Super Fortress.

Gee...I just scored a hat trick, boy that was easy.


ack-ack

I agree with ack we should add the a26  .

semp

[oakranger]

Pyro in a post many years ago, way before you started to play, mentioned in a post why they are hesitant to add the B-29 and you want to know what that reason was?  It was because it would render other bombers pretty much to hanger queen status. 

ack-ack

Show me this post.  Better yet, where is Pyro or Hitech?  Surly they know there are some many post about getting B-29.  I want to see their opinion on it. 

[gyrene81]

Gyrene if you just go by wishlist topics...I have 11 for the HE-111 and 28 for the B-29. 

Yes sir...I got the same, however if you look at the content...all but 10 of those B-29 starters was a joke of some kind.

TA is a helluva bird at alt.

I'd rather not explain myself about the 234 again.

That is true, however it is not the point...the point is that neither the TA-152 nor the AR-234 have had a detrimental effect on the gameplay as the B-29 would...of course us naysayers could all be over thinking the effects that the B-29 would have overall, but what good would it do for the game...give a few "I want" types some temporary gratification so they can tool around the LW arenas in yet another "captain america" aircraft? There are 46 U.S. and British aircraft...and only 34 between the German, Italian, Japanese and Russians...what good would be served by a 375mph bomber?

[dhart]

Then why dont we get Skuzzy or someone to start a poll on if it should be added?

[oakranger]

Then why dont we get Skuzzy or someone to start a poll on if it should be added?

Skuzzy has nothing to do with it.  But i agree, they do need to do a poll.


I do like to seed the B-29 as much as seeing other on AH.  I am all about "Diversity" in both AC and countries. 

[Spikes]

That is true, however it is not the point...the point is that neither the TA-152 nor the AR-234 have had a detrimental effect on the gameplay as the B-29 would...of course us naysayers could all be over thinking the effects that the B-29 would have overall, but what good would it do for the game...give a few "I want" types some temporary gratification so they can tool around the LW arenas in yet another "captain america" aircraft? There are 46 U.S. and British aircraft...and only 34 between the German, Italian, Japanese and Russians...what good would be served by a 375mph bomber?

Oh trust me I don't want the B29 much at all...it'd only benefit guys who don't fly the 234, since they have tens of thousands of buff perks. To my name right now, I have 6.49. But that's my fault because I up a 234 as soon as I get just enough perks.

The 29 would have a great affect when flown, hell, I wouldn't attack one in any plane except a 163 or a fast cannon bird. I might feel a little safer if there were no drones.

[stealth]

Oh trust me I don't want the B29 much at all...it'd only benefit guys who don't fly the 234, since they have tens of thousands of buff perks. To my name right now, I have 6.49. But that's my fault because I up a 234 as soon as I get just enough perks.

The 29 would have a great affect when flown, hell, I wouldn't attack one in any plane except a 163 or a fast cannon bird. I might feel a little safer if there were no drones.

Very true i say give it a low ENY or just leave it at 5.Give it no drone's at all with no big bomb drone's or not still be a deadly aircraft.

[oakranger]

Oh trust me I don't want the B29 much at all...it'd only benefit guys who don't fly the 234, since they have tens of thousands of buff perks. To my name right now, I have 6.49. But that's my fault because I up a 234 as soon as I get just enough perks.

The 29 would have a great affect when flown, hell, I wouldn't attack one in any plane except a 163 or a fast cannon bird. I might feel a little safer if there were no drones.

I would attack it nor matter what the chances are.  I am sure there are ppl on AH that can easily take it down. 

[5PointOh]

I'd attack one in a M-Jug...8 .50 make bombers go BOOM!

[oakranger]

I'd attack one in a M-Jug...8 .50 make bombers go BOOM!

lol, or 2 x 20  mm and 2 x 30 mm in a 110.

[sandwich]

I'd attack one in a M-Jug...8 .50 make bombers go BOOM!

I dont know.

18 fifty cals and 3 20mm cannons can make a plane splode pretty fast. 

Attacking it from the top would be a deathtrap.

Attacking it from the rear would be a deathtrap.

Attacking it from the front is a deathtrap.

Attacking underneath it is a deathtrap.

We need planes that can shoot it down before we add this thing.

At this moment it would be damn near invincible.

Some people can shoot planes accurately with turrets from more than a K away.

The only plane that would have a chance is a near supersonic 163.

I'll be happy to wait a couple years to add the planes to make a B-29 addition feasable.

Untill then I'm just fine and dandy flying my 17's.

[Ack-Ack]

I think the B-29 in game would be a little bit easier to down than it would have been in real life.  The majority of B-29 that were downed in WW2 were due to weather and mechanical failures with a surprisingly small amount lost due to enemy fighters.

20th Bomber Command
80 total, with 22 due to fighters, 7 from AAA and 51 from "other"
breakdown by year is:
1944 70 total, with 20 due to fighters, 5 from AAA and 45 from "other"
1945 10 total, with 2 due to fighters, 2 from AAA and 6 from "other"

21st Bomber Command
334 total, with 52 due to fighters, 47 from AAA, 19 from fighter/AAA and 216 from "other"
breakdown by year is:
1944 25 total, with 4 due to fighters, 1 from AAA, and 20 from "other"
1945 309 total, with 48 due to fighters, 46 from AAA, 19 from fighter/AAA and 196 from "other"

The reason why it would probably be easier in AH would be because players would have a wider selection of fighters to use that would be better suited for bomber interceptions than what the Japanese were able to field at the later stages of the war.  Had the B-29 been used in the ETO, the Germans had planes that would have been better capable of intercepting the bombers.

ack-ack

[Nemisis]

Skuzzy has nothing to do with it.  But i agree, they do need to do a poll.


I do like to seed the B-29 as much as seeing other on AH.  I am all about "Diversity" in both AC and countries. 

Perhaps not quite like that. They post a list of aircraft they are willing to have a vote on. Then we narrow it down to the top 5 requested aircraft. After that is done, they have a final vote on which AC will be the next to be added, not displacing current projects.