B-29 Super Fortress

[caldera]

The B-29 would be boku fun for the B-29 driver (after an hour and a half climbout AFK). How many noble fools would spend an hour climbing and chasing that black dot in the ionosphere? I am in favor of the plane but there has to be a concession made to competition: wind. Implement a jet stream at 25k and above. That way, the B-29 can be caught at bomb altitude, but could still hide in outer space before or after the drop. Otherwise it will be the "Battle of the Griefers" at 35k, porking and dropping fighter hangars with relative impunity.

[Castle51]

What if you got something like 20 fighter perks for shooting her down?  That should be some incentive.

[Castle51]

Short film showing me in a Ta152 at 36k (B-29,s altitude) going 400mph (faster that B-29's max speed.)

http://www.mediafire.com/file/gmmgyjgrizm/TA152 SPEED.ahf


Yeah, I know, you all are still gonna whine about something right?

[Oleg]

How about this, grab a B-17, climb up to 33k and then tell me where your going and I'll shoot you down cause like I said I'm the only one I know of that flies buffs above 35k

I'll die from utter boredom far before I reach 30k And no, I not gonna help you with that task, find another way to learn it. I have a life after all

[Denholm]

Short film showing me in a Ta152 at 36k (B-29,s altitude) going 400mph (faster that B-29's max speed.)

http://www.mediafire.com/file/gmmgyjgrizm/TA152 SPEED.ahf


Yeah, I know, you all are still gonna whine about something right?

The link doesn't work.

 

[trigger2]

thats why most people don't.  If the bomber does get in AH most will just fly em' the way you see lanc attacks now and it probably won't even be half as bad as you all are making it out to be.

No mate, I'm a primary bomber pilot for the rooks. The b-24's the best bomber in game, hands down.
I just think that the b-29 has more than enough potential to disrupt gameplay, especially with 20,000 lbs of ord standard...

I love getting high before I raid, I perfer to make it back home. Although I usually will cap out at about 20k cause a flight with no holes is no fun imo.

But if I paid, oh, say 200 perks for the b-29, I'd be getting her up to alt and making sure she came home.

[Nemisis]

Ah, tigger2, so you are a rook, then you are our sworn enemies. At least you and I have something in common we are both bomber junkies !!! Well, anyway, it all depends on what you mean by best. If you mean bomb load then lank is best, if you mean biggest bomb load for plane that an oscar isn't a terrible threat to then B24 is the best. If you mean most survivability during flight then the Ar234 is best if you can handle it (almost no one can catch it) or if you mean best combonation of bomb load and survivabilty then the A20-G or the B26 is best. it all depends on what you call best. Personly I fly the B26 as it always sees me through the worst. And that is the reason your team will never defeat the Bish Empire . 
 

[Lye-El]

So what you're asking for is to see a little red dot with "B-29" over it on the map?  

Yep. You want a super airplane. Others want a way to shoot down. Dar bar means a Stuka or C-47 or anything else. The only thing that can get from the ground to the operating altitude of a B-29, and catch it, is the Komet. Unless you have more than a least a sector warning it would be impervious. Unless you are going to fly it at 10K or so. Is anybody going to do that at 200 perkies a pop?

[Beefcake]

If you put a red dot on the map to mark B29's I guarantee it'll end up being a hanger queen. Why? Because everyone will know what it is, and alot of people will up to shoot it down, and most likely a lone formation would never make it to target. Whenever these large buff missions appear on radar everyone and their mother usually ups and intercepts it. Most of the time few of the buffs survive to make it home. Now even though the B29 would have alot of defensive firepower, all it takes is a fire on 1 engine or fuel tank and boom there goes 200 perks.

You people keep talking about this game breaking balance yet I don't see how a few formations of B29s bombing a base would be any different than a few formations of B24's, B17's or Lancs bombing the base.

[Castle51]

Too right beef.

   I probably haven't mentioned this yet but I'm with the CLAIM JUMPERS.  For those unfamiliar with the group, its a base taking squad of more than 100 members with no real preference to a specific set of tactics or aircraft.  With that said I could probably dial up around 12 of my squad mates on an average night and put together a bombing mission consisting of 36 B-17s ( that's 216,000 lbs of bombs!).  I'm assuming most of us are in squads and probably have the same capability to run such a sortie.  Point is, nothing in the game requires that much firepower, yet we can do it anyway.  Its almost pointless do drive up to 34k to drop but if you feel like it, it can be done in a B-17.  You all are afraid of the capabilities the B-29 has and fail to understand that these capabilities already exist in the game and do get used!

   Here is another thing I'm pretty sure I've already brought up.  For all the complaining you guys have been doing about having to shoot down a high alt bomber, has anyone in here even tried it?  I think oleg was talking something about it not too long ago and I'm not even sure he's done it himself.

[Motherland]

   Here is another thing I'm pretty sure I've already brought up.  For all the complaining you guys have been doing about having to shoot down a high alt bomber, has anyone in here even tried it?  I think oleg was talking something about it not too long ago and I'm not even sure he's done it himself.

I do it (or try to) plenty. Intercepting buffs above ~10K is a hair raising process as it is, which gets exponentially more unpleasant the higher you go. I really don't like to engage bombers at all above 15K unless I'm in an Fw 190A-8 or Bf 109 w/ gondolas, except for in the head on attack. My gunnery on aircraft that are traveling at ~300 mph perpendicular of my flight path of ~400 mph is simply poor, much poorer than the buff gunner much of the time.
Even in FSO, where we'll get set up with a ~5k altitude advantage at 30k or whatever, I'd rather engage the escorts than the bomber stream.

[Castle51]

But its not impossible, right?

[Nemisis]

I will tell you how beefcake, well only if they allow it to carry it's actual bomb load and don't make an exception to the rules because it would make for an uber-pwnr bomber. First off, as you said, it will have a lot of defensive firepower meaning more will make it through. Second, it will have a massive bombload, meaning it will be able to level multiple fields; once it does a whole horde will follow it in to mop up fighters to up it, and after that.....(AA gunner) hey look...C47's. But the real reason (I think) most people are afraid of is if HTC perks it low enough then more people will take it out and add to the already volumous amount of crap (bombs, buring wreckage, and corpses from the shot down bomber) falling on their heads from you guys that has them scared to go out without aircover or at least wirbles, but that dosen't mean the won't just they don't like it. And I do attack buffs whenever I see a chance that dosen't take me more than 10 minutes to catch up as long as it is heading toward OUR bases instead of back to their own.

[Castle51]

If it does end up in the game its probably gonna be perked on the same level as a 262 (at least I hope so) so while I could imagine there being an initial wave of "superstukas" and other NOE B-29 missions by people who have been itching to get rid of some 8,000 bomber perks, after that it should be used more realistically, and seldomly (not even sure that's a word) due to its high price.

[Nemisis]

Castle, I don't honestly care either way if it gets in the game or not, I would like it but I do not really care. But again I think it is that initial wave people are afraid of, as it will mean the game will get tougher for a little bit, at least for the fighter guys as they will have to fly from futhrer back then most would ever do normally.