Keep on shooting at those 'copters

[slimm50]

Originally posted by mosgood
So, really it's not "by the Bible or the Bayonet"  It's "by paying for it later by going to hell for your sins or the Bayonet"  both is fear induced.  So...  people only behave because they fear consquences ?

C'mon Seagoon, you can hammer this softball right outta th park.

[lazs2]

Deleted. See rule #4.

[Mukiwa]

Originally posted by lazs2

or maybe you are just a short sited, selfish, and cowardly socialist with his head up his butt?

lazs

Gosh - the incredibly effective slight change to a nick combined with badly spelt name calling....a devastating attack that surely will put Skydancer in his place once and for all!!

Wonder why he forgot out the usual "girly men", "metrosexual" and references...probably an off day.

[Skydancer]

Cool down Lazs you'll have an annuerism!

By the Way Beetle is confirmed Tory!!! We are at opposite ends of the political spectrum infact. We just happen to agree on the gun thing!

I'm very selfish, thats why I put my hand in my wallet and donated to the Tsunami, the famine in Niger and the new orleans debacle via the red cross.

Yup I'm selfish as hell

[Mukiwa]

Did you see Ken Clarke on Tv last night - am feeling bit Tory myself after heasring him....

[Skydancer]

Yes. Do you think the Tories will be the new left under his leadership:huh  Whatever next!

[Hangtime]

Originally posted by Mukiwa
Gosh - the incredibly effective slight change to a nick combined with badly spelt name calling....a devastating attack that surely will put Skydancer in his place once and for all!!

Wonder why he forgot out the usual "girly men", "metrosexual" and references...probably an off day.

Actually, he's just trying to keep it civil. Considering his stellar credentials and your utter lack of them, I'm wondering what you've got to add to the conversation beyond your own sniping?

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by Mukiwa
Did you see Ken Clarke on Tv last night - am feeling bit Tory myself after heasring him....

Illiteracy is ALL THE RAGE!!!! It is SOOOOO DAFT!

Karaya

[Skydancer]

So's dyslexia! Think I do pretty well considering!

Hang, that was civil for Lazs but a bit of a flame nonetheless. Besides he called Beetle a socialist! Thats just plain wrong!

[lazs2]

Opposite ends of the spectrum?   don't make me laugh.   I have met beet... He is just as big a socialist as you are and just as big government oriented as you are.... he just want's to keep more of his personel wealth.

Both of you believe in democracy without human rights.  You feel that the only rights are those that your government grants you by taking a poll of the people (vote).   But.... if they decide to do away with that even.... well... they know best ...

and... is "spelt" a word?

lazs

[Skydancer]

Without Human rights? What are you on today? Of course this is probably going to end up being about the human right to bear arms! I can feel it coming. So I'll stop here before the thread gets completely hijacked!

[lazs2]

skyprancer.... you are indeed a socialist... you belive that government should take your and everyone elses money and distribute it for social causes... your job is a perfect example... you do not believe that people can do it on their own..  You would confiscate the wealth others make and redistibute it... you would do it at a rate that increases as a person works harder.

selfish is not just giving or not giving spare change or paying your taxes.... I would respect someone who stood by the door of a home in the area with his gun and stopped looters more than someone who made a huge deal of giving $100 (97 of which goes to run the organization) to the red cross.   I respect those who give money and don't come on here and brag about it too.   Your giving may make you feel good but I am not impressed.

Selfish is when you don't fight for anyones rights but your own... those things that concern you..  For instance... you will fight like a wolverine to make sure that you can ride a bike with 150hp but vote in a second to remove the rights of countrymen to drive certain types of cars or defend themselves with firearms...  

I would never vote to ban either or any... so?   who is the selfish one of us two?

lazs

[Sandman]

Originally posted by storch
hmmm that sounds suspiciously like Kharma, that concept may also be found in galatians chapter 5.  maybe you are confused in your atheism

It's not kharma. It's practical.

I like to be practical.



It's probably blatant self interest as well.

[Skydancer]

Just for the record not bragging just pointing out that I did what I could in response to an accusation of being entirely selfish.

By the way I don't have to stand with a gun and protect from looters. And probably wouldn't need to as theres nothing like the same gun problem but thats old and very tired ground huh?

[lazs2]

what?  no crime in your country?   why all the signs to beware of pickpockets when I was there then?  why all the burglaries?

Tell me mr I don't need a gun in safe old england.... when they do mug yu or break into your house.... what are you gonna do?   Call the police?  get on your hands and knees with your pants down butt in the air?   hit em with your cricket paddle?  

You are young and faily strong right now... you may even be able to hold off one guy.... probly not tho since most people have no idea what it is like to have an aggresive attacker but... say you do.... great... what about 2?  could you beat up two??  what about 30 years from now (you do think you might live that long right) ??  How will you deal with it then?   Ooops... there goes that short sighted thing again...

lazs