When the fuel is gone

[FiLtH]

Someday we will run out of fuel. What do you think will happen?

  1. The governments of the world will work together to find alternatives to save humanity, before it becomes critical.

  2. The world will as we know it will collapse overnight, plunging us into a new dark age.

      I predict (and Im so in the know on this stuff ) that small countries will gently ween themselves off from fossil fuels, while the major powers will work toward alternatives, BUT...in order to buy some time, will use their weapons against other major powers while they still can.  If the weapons that give you power are powerless, then pure numbers will be the powerful. Those numbers will have to be eliminated in order to remain in the game.

[DropW]

We already have alternative fuel sources, but for some reason we aren't using them. Such as E85. I just put a post all about it, but it got closed. If you want me to repost it here, I have my post saved I can, But i fear that Skuzzy is going to close this whole thread or wipe my post from existence. -DropW

[mosgood]

Originally posted by FiLtH
Someday we will run out of fuel. What do you think will happen?

 

I guess I wont be able to put gas in my car.....

[FiLtH]

Hehe DropW...hold off on it till we get a lil more input. For now...do you think option 1 or 2?

[Clifra Jones]

When all the Oil is certifiably gone. Not some propoganda spewed out by the enviro-nazis, I mean verifiably GONE, an alternate source will be created. It is how the capitalist system works. Right now there is no profit incentive to create this alternative because the producers know that there is enough oil supply for the forseeable future. We do not have a problem with supply we have a problem with refinement and distribution and this storm has only made that problem worse.

The last refinery was built in the 1970s, Now why do you think that is? Same goes for nuclear power plants, cheapest, cleanest, safest source of electricity.

[DropW]

I am beginning to believe that it is option 1. There are already several types of alternative fuels out there. Such as Biodesiels, E85, electric, etc. In fact, it looks like E85 is probably gonna be just what the governments are going to put out. It is made of 15% petroleum and 85% Ethonal. This type of fuel goes into FFVs (Fuel Flexible Vehicles). In fact, major motor companies have been making FFVs since 2000. You can find out about this information if you google search it. The government already uses it, and some public stations in the midwest have it. Also, many peoples cars that have recently bought are FFVs and they don't even know it. ARG, I already had a whole post about it, and it got closed. I wrote an e-mail to Skuzzy already, trying to get it unclosed. If you all are interested in this information, please post a reply. I am ready to resend the post that got closed. -DropW

[Skuzzy]

DropW, there is no problem discussing alternate fuel solutions.  The manner in which you approached read like SPAM/advertising, which I do have a problem with.

Your second thread wanting to confront me about it on the board is not the way to deal with things.  Had you simply emailed or PM'd me, the matter could have been handled much better than trying to get into a confrontation on the bulletin board.

Discuss away, but keep in mind, this is a discussion board, not a board for spamming or advertising on.

[FiLtH]

Ok..ok...(puts bottles of Scotch under the counter)

    You guys take this back out in the street..dont be trashin my bar!

[Suave]

It's got to be Hydrogen. I'm no chemist, but I do know that placing sodium in water although a volatile reaction, produces hydrogen gas. 70% of the earth is covered in salt water, doesn't seem like it should be that hard. But like I said I'm no chemist.

[Nilsen]

Originally posted by DropW
I am beginning to believe that it is option 1. There are already several types of alternative fuels out there. Such as Biodesiels, E85, electric, etc. In fact, it looks like E85 is probably gonna be just what the governments are going to put out. It is made of 15% petroleum and 85% Ethonal. This type of fuel goes into FFVs (Fuel Flexible Vehicles). In fact, major motor companies have been making FFVs since 2000. You can find out about this information if you google search it. The government already uses it, and some public stations in the midwest have it. Also, many peoples cars that have recently bought are FFVs and they don't even know it. ARG, I already had a whole post about it, and it got closed. I wrote an e-mail to Skuzzy already, trying to get it unclosed. If you all are interested in this information, please post a reply. I am ready to resend the post that got closed. -DropW

Ethanol comes from plants right? (saw your link)
Were can you grow enough of it without it having to compete with land for growing food?. How do you prevent poorer countries growing "fuel" instead of food for their hungry inhabitants. This is already a problem in some areas were drugs gets a better price than food.

[Nilsen]

Originally posted by Clifra Jones
When all the Oil is certifiably gone. Not some propoganda spewed out by the enviro-nazis, I mean verifiably GONE, an alternate source will be created. It is how the capitalist system works. Right now there is no profit incentive to create this alternative because the producers know that there is enough oil supply for the forseeable future. We do not have a problem with supply we have a problem with refinement and distribution and this storm has only made that problem worse.

The last refinery was built in the 1970s, Now why do you think that is? Same goes for nuclear power plants, cheapest, cleanest, safest source of electricity.

Enviro-nazi? Just because one realises that buring oil destroys the enviroment and can and maybe has caused what we now see in NO ?

[Sandman]

Originally posted by Nilsen
Enviro-nazi? Just because one realises that buring oil destroys the enviroment and can and maybe has caused what we now see in NO ?

This should be good...

[Nilsen]

Originally posted by Sandman


This should be good...

Care to share?

[FiLtH]

Were hurricanes created by the increase of CO2 due to the burning of fossil fuels? Hmm..I thought they were around before then.

[Nilsen]

The burning of fossile fuels like oil raises the temperature. Water temperatures have risen and hurricanes forms if the water temp is above 27 degrees celcius.

Yes there has been natural hurricanes since.. well forever but the warmer the climate gets the more hurricanes we will get.