Author Topic: Problems and new stuff ?s (Read 1463 times)

Delirium · « **on:** September 01, 2005, 09:00:39 PM »

I've been having a problem with overheating on my CPU, it isn't overclocked but runs at 46-51C in AH and 41 off AH in basic windows. It is a pent 3.0 with the stock fan it came with, I ended up recently repasting it to the heatsick/fan is came with and it seemed to fix the problem, but no it is back again.

I took one side off of the computer, no luck. so I took off both sides and have a room ran placed up against the opening in the case.

Does anyone have any ideas?
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The issue is, I'm thinking about getting a new PCI-E MB and a new PCI-E vidcard with a bigger power supply (I currently run a 400) as well as a new case.

Does anyone have any recommendations? I'd really like to continue to use the Pent 3gig cpu but have the option of upgrading the cpu easily in bios without having to purchase another mb in the forseeable future.

Thanks in advance!

38ruk · « **Reply #1 on:** September 01, 2005, 09:30:06 PM »

Is that 3.0ghz a prescott by chance ? Ive heard that they run hot. 46- 51C Is warm , but not hot enuff to cause a crash IMHO . Im an AMD guy so id have to look at the temp threshold for that chip , but it seems that it should run stable at those temps ... 38

EDIT: After looking a few places , those temps are actually good for a prescott, if in fact you have a prescott . But those are stable temps for a northwood as well

OOZ662 · « **Reply #2 on:** September 01, 2005, 09:43:22 PM »

I was reading reviews on Intel 3.0s and saw that the stock fans were lousy. Mine was OEM and didn't come with a fan. Best remedy to heat is a copper heatsink with a good fan on it; unless you want to geek it out and water cool it.

Copper has the best heat conductivity of any commercially available metal.

If you decide to replace the heatsink, try one of these.

Skuzzy · « **Reply #3 on:** September 02, 2005, 06:47:32 AM »

If that is a Prescott, which I believe it is, those temperatures are in line with it. They run hot. Very hot.

If you want it to run cooler, you will need to replace the heat sink and fan. The Thermalright XP-90 or XP-90C is a very good unit and uses a 92mm fan. However, you need to make sure there is room for it in your case.

FOGOLD · « **Reply #4 on:** September 02, 2005, 07:36:07 AM »

I wouldn't worry about it unless you are getting lock ups etc. If you're not getting problems, leave well alone unless you want to overclock.

Delirium · « **Reply #5 on:** September 02, 2005, 08:41:03 PM »

This may seem pathetic... how do you tell what type of chip you have? I have the box the chip came in with all the packaging

I apologize, but I am still trying to learn this hardware stuff, for no other reason than to save myself from money and aggrevation from shops.

OOZ662 · « **Reply #6 on:** September 02, 2005, 10:40:29 PM »

It should just say on the box. Where did you buy it from? If it was online, it should be listed as to what core it is. Mine is a Northwood, which runs MUCH cooler than a Prescott, but I'm sure it has some kind of downside.

ALF · « **Reply #7 on:** September 02, 2005, 11:03:05 PM »

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Originally posted by Delirium
This may seem pathetic... how do you tell what type of chip you have? I have the box the chip came in with all the packaging

I apologize, but I am still trying to learn this hardware stuff, for no other reason than to save myself from money and aggrevation from shops.

You get yourself a free version of Sandra 2005 lite (free)

It will tell you more than opening your case

Delirium · « **Reply #8 on:** September 03, 2005, 06:56:48 AM »

Ok, it IS a Prescott... which means the temps the cpu is running at is acceptable.

Could it be the temp of the vid card causing the lock ups? I have a Nvidia 5700LE 256 meg.

FOGOLD · « **Reply #9 on:** September 03, 2005, 07:06:46 AM »

You ARE getting lock ups. Right, sorry, missed that.

Is it hard lock ups, meaning the whole PC locks solid and there's no way out except restarting?

Siaf__csf · « **Reply #10 on:** September 03, 2005, 08:58:20 AM »

OOZ662 there is no downside. Your chip runs faster and cooler - the prescott was a less than optimal design with only one goal, more clockspeed. Clock to clock it was slower than NW.

Intel knows people are buying Mhz not actual efficiency. So they built a chip with reeal high clockspeed even if it meant building it slower than its predecessors.

And consumers were happy paying top dollar for the 'enhanced' chip.

Actually same thing happened already before when switching from P3 to P4 line. Early P4's were much slower than the best P3 - but it was a question of image more than anything.

Delirium · « **Reply #11 on:** September 03, 2005, 09:18:12 AM »

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Originally posted by FOGOLD
Is it hard lock ups, meaning the whole PC locks solid and there's no way out except restarting?

Yep... sound will continue for about 3-4 seconds and then nothing. I have to pull the plug or hit the reset button the case. It has happened ONCE off AH, otherwise its always in AH.

FOGOLD · « **Reply #12 on:** September 03, 2005, 11:18:01 AM »

Sounds like a heat issue right enough.

Be careful repasting the heatsik fan. Don't just slap on thermal paste. Try a good third party HSF and with good thermal compound. Follow the thermal compound instructions VERY carefuly as putting it on too thick can be worse than none at all.

345 · « **Reply #13 on:** September 03, 2005, 03:50:48 PM »

It might be a heat issue for the Video card but you said you opened up the case and directed a room fan at it which should have cooled the video card enough to eliminate that. Have you checked to make sure the videocard cooling fan is working?

Only other thing hardware wise that I think might cause lockups like that might be a power supply issue that only shows up when the comp is being pushed and drawing a more power. Does this happen anytime the comp is pushed or just during 3D games like AH? Have you run any stress tests or other benchmarks on the system?

Delirium · « **Reply #14 on:** September 03, 2005, 06:14:34 PM »

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Originally posted by FOGOLD
Be careful repasting the heatsik fan. Don't just slap on thermal paste. Try a good third party HSF and with good thermal compound. Follow the thermal compound instructions VERY carefuly as putting it on too thick can be worse than none at all.

I've never done it before, but I read up enough (I think) before hand. I applied paste a little bigger than the size of a pea and smoothed it out with a knife.

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]Originally posted by 345 Have you checked to make sure the videocard cooling fan is working?

It is running... I blew the dust off it earlier.

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]Originally posted by 345 Does this happen anytime the comp is pushed or just during 3D games like AH? Have you run any stress tests or other benchmarks on the system?

It has never happened in Silent Hunter, it has happened in windows once, and it happens in AH often.

Can you recommend a proggie to stress test it? I am currently running a 420W power supply btw.

Thanks for the help all, I appreciate it.