London suicider Mohammed Sidique Khan tells us whats up

[Skydancer]

Yep you are actualy right. Trouble is we punched the wrong guy!

[lazs2]

skyprancer... so far as example goes... they are all interchangeable... the right or wrong guy has nothing to do with anything except what you have the most to gain from... you need the toehold one way or the other.

lazs

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by Skydancer
Yep you are actualy right. Trouble is we punched the wrong guy!

No we are getting the right ones allright.
If it were left up to you, we would be afraid to even enter the schoolyard because they would have told you this all started when you were blocking the vending machines.................and you would have beleived that , or at least pretended you did to save face.

[cpxxx]

Like all terrorists it's the arrogance that comes through.  I could go through it line by line dissecting his statement but I can't be bothered.
His cause, good, bad or indifferent justifies him killing any number of ordinary harmless people and maiming hundreds of others. That is the mark of a terrorist. They lose all sense of human deceny and simply see people as lesser beings and legitimate targets.

Their self righteous victimhood justifies any act, any atrocity.  They have distorted their own religion to justify an act specifically forbidden in the Koran.

All terrorists suffer from the same delusions in one form or the other, no matter what the cause. In truth all terrorists are people who have failed in their lives in some way, mostly in their own mind. They replace the emptiness in their lives with the 'cause'. Now they are somebody, even if they commit suicide doing so.

As he made that video that man felt superior to the rest of us. When he pressed the button on that bomb no doubt he felt a sense of achievement.  In truth all he achieved was death and destruction.  There is no victory in death.  He was a loser.

[Jackal1]

OSB made a statement that pretty well summed it up.
  He stated something to the effect that the people of the west embraced life and abhored death and that his people embraced death.
  Trying to understand and rationalize a culture by our standards and outlooks is a bad, bad mistake. It can`t be done. We are the sworn enemy, cut and dried. No in between. No negociating.

[Rino]

Originally posted by Yeager
yeah but he has a salient point.  In our society the civilian is in charge of the soldier by proxy.  We elect our leaders and we are being held responsible.  I am totally cool with that.  I understand how this works.  I just hope we can avoid a premature death as species.

       So then, by his logic, any civilians we kill over in the Middle
East are legitimate targets?  Sounds weak to me, the vast
majority of the population has no practical control over the
military.

       I think they are just rationalizing the fact that they prefer
soft targets that cannot retaliate.

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by Yeager
here is the source article:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/09/02/london.tape.cia/index.html

Thanks Yeager.

[Yeager]

Thrawn, n/p.

Rino,

Lets make the distinction between an islamic state, where the koran is the law of the land and the religious elders are the  leaders - versus a western style democracy, free from religious interference in the affairs of state, where the people vote for their representatives to run the affairs of government, including a subserviant military.

[FiLtH]

Its the "one true god" bit that irks me. Wtf is he to think his god is the only god.  Its just well tanned rednecks with bomb laden backpacks.

   No i dont pity them. If it were up to me, and Im sure you are glad it isnt, Id take all the oil, and enslave or exterminate the lot of them. No hard feelings, its what my one true god wanted. See how silly it is?

[Sandman]

Originally posted by lazs2
I could respect his opinion and deeds more if he only attacked government instalations and soldiers.

lazs

Welcome to the era of asymetric warfare.

[detch01]

His people? LOL. Analogous story: (Skuzzy, will do my best not to offend too many people with it).
I worked in the defense industry for quite awhile as a writer. I worked a lot with translators (English-French). One of them was a died in the wool "seperatist" (as in Quebec leaving Canada). He couldn't say enough good about the FLQ bombers in Quebec (early 70's). Quebecers, "his people" in his mind, were the unrecognized oppressed in the world - he hated us maudit anglais. BTW, he's from SE Saskatchewan.
So he goes to Montreal for a vacation one summer. He comes back seething. The Montreal seperatists he hooked up with treated him like pond-scum. Not because he was a seperatist but because he was:
a) from out of province and therefore a "foreigner";
b) not of the "habitant" class (his family didn't emigrate from France before the mid-18th century; and,
c) his family came from Haiti not France.
The really funny part was for several years before his trip to Montreal he was "tithing" his salary to seperatist organizations in Quebec. His people - yup
The Soviets called these kinds of people "useful idiots". Quebec seperatists call them "pepsi" (empty from the neck up). I wonder what AQ calls them?

asw

[Hangtime]

i knew a nutjob like that. He stepped off a curb and got hit by a bus.

there was some discusson about being pushed, but in the end, the consensus was 'darwin'.

[Skydancer]

Well at least he 's not around anymore. Shame about the others!

[AWMac]

Lets Roll

[Skydancer]

No Lets Rock instead!