Author Topic: us californians are at it again (Read 2199 times)

SMIDSY · « **on:** September 07, 2005, 03:20:42 AM »

yes folks, for those of you who havent heard, the california legislature has approved a bill that will allow homosexual marriage in this state. now it shall go to the governator's desk for his approval or veto.

PS
if you dont like my home state's decision, you may not use religion in any of your aurguments.

Fishu · « **Reply #1 on:** September 07, 2005, 03:38:10 AM »

I've been raised with the ideology that a marriage is between man and woman, not between two of the same gender.
Otherwise I couldn't care less if someone wants to live with a person of same gender.

Nilsen · « **Reply #2 on:** September 07, 2005, 03:59:03 AM »

I've grown up thinking that a marriage is between man and woman, not between two of the same gender. In later years I have arrived at the conclusion that I really don't care if they get married or not and that should be up to them. They should have all the same rights as hetro married couples. I'm torn on the issue of gays beeing able to adopt tho, but im not looking for input on the matter... it won't help cause ive heard all the arguments before.

Thank cod you don't need a church to get married so that gays can get married whatever the church thinks about the matter.

straffo · « **Reply #3 on:** September 07, 2005, 04:12:15 AM »

Kalifornian gave DIVORCE to the gay ?

where is "Act Up" ?

mora · « **Reply #4 on:** September 07, 2005, 04:26:11 AM »

All people should have equal rights, no special rights for married people. If they still want to "marry", it shouldn't be states business if some religious group wants to perform a wedding ceremony for them.

There shouldn't be any restrictions to adoption as long as the adopting person(s) are legally sane.

JTs · « **Reply #5 on:** September 07, 2005, 05:50:29 AM »

a collective sigh of releif is heard from the sheep. and in a related development woolite sales down 50%

Ghosth · « **Reply #6 on:** September 07, 2005, 07:38:51 AM »

If the state choses to acknowledge the fact that the 2 people involved are in a long term relationship, fine. If they want to give them the same rights & priviledges it gives married people, fine.

I just don't think they should call it marriage when its between 2 people of the same sex.

Fishu · « **Reply #7 on:** September 07, 2005, 07:47:44 AM »

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Originally posted by Ghosth
I just don't think they should call it marriage when its between 2 people of the same sex.

agreed

lazs2 · « **Reply #8 on:** September 07, 2005, 08:06:52 AM »

If you want to call it marriage then it should be between a man and a woman.

I think the whole thing was cooked up by divorce lawyers looking for new gold mines.

It will probly cost the rest of us a bunch of money.

lazs

SOB · « **Reply #9 on:** September 07, 2005, 09:10:23 AM »

Nice to see California doing something reasonable once and a while. I don't see any problem with them marrying, nor do I see any problem with it being called marriage. It's a civil marriage, and no church needs to be involved, unless the church chooses to.

I think the no special rights for married folks, and the government not getting involved in it for anyone is a nice idea, but I doubt that'll ever happen.

Sandman · « **Reply #10 on:** September 07, 2005, 09:40:31 AM »

Think of the children!

Chairboy · « **Reply #11 on:** September 07, 2005, 09:48:54 AM »

Let's try this on for size with other stuff:

"Why, I was raised knowing that land ownership is something that's limited to whites! These blackies, they can LIVE on the land, and they can maybe even lease it long term, but it's just not right to allow them to OWN it."

"I was raised knowing that womenfolk aren't allowed to vote. Now, they can try and convince their husbands on how to vote, nobody is stopping that, they just don't deserve the actual VOTE."

Heterosexuals get special rights, sounds like the gays just want to have equal access to those rights.

Jackal1 · « **Reply #12 on:** September 07, 2005, 09:54:34 AM »

Gunslinger · « **Reply #13 on:** September 07, 2005, 10:25:52 AM »

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Originally posted by mora
All people should have equal rights, no special rights for married people. If they still want to "marry", it shouldn't be states business if some religious group wants to perform a wedding ceremony for them.

There shouldn't be any restrictions to adoption as long as the adopting person(s) are legally sane.

yea I love it when this is an equal rights issue. "People should be allowed to marry who they love" Gays have the same rights as anyone else, they want extra rights.

why were at it lets let NAMBLA have their special rights.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #14 on:** September 07, 2005, 10:26:54 AM »

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Originally posted by Chairboy

Heterosexuals get special rights, sounds like the gays just want to have equal access to those rights.

mind explaining what rights those are?

Last time I checked you can get extra prison time for a strait guy beating up a gay guy but not the other way around.