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« Reply #30 on: September 12, 2005, 08:19:42 AM »
nielsen... how would you propose we do that?

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« Reply #31 on: September 12, 2005, 08:20:45 AM »
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Why not just make it safe enough so that civilians dont need guns to protect themselves?



Are you aware that people spends hundreds of millions of dollars per year on hunting and competitive shooting sports?

For the vast majority of Americans ownership is about enjoying a sport.  It's not just the garuntee of the right to live.

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« Reply #32 on: September 12, 2005, 08:27:27 AM »
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Are you aware that people spends hundreds of millions of dollars per year on hunting and competitive shooting sports?

For the vast majority of Americans ownership is about enjoying a sport.  It's not just the garuntee of the right to live.


I know. Its the same here. There are more guns per capita in Norway than in the US. Hunting is big here. Most of the weapons are shotguns and rifles.

Reason behind my comment is because the thread is about skyrocketing sales of weapons in NO and Gulf Coast. Is the hunting season opening down there now? ;)

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« Reply #33 on: September 12, 2005, 08:50:05 AM »
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Why not just make it safe enough so that civilians dont need guns to protect themselves?


Because some of us aren't too keen on living in a police state. Which would probably be the only way to drastically reduce crime in the US. Keep in mind our culture enjoys making heros & folk heros out of some of our most notorious criminals. Billy the Kid, Jesse James, Al Capone... everybody has heard of Bonnie & Clyde.. but can anybody name the officers that gunned them down without having to google it?
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« Reply #34 on: September 12, 2005, 09:11:58 AM »
nielsen...your country proves a point... as do the swiss... if people are law abiding then it doesn't matter how many guns there are.... the guns cause no problems..

The U.S. proves that... that if there is a huge criminal class that guns slow down the crime.

so... if everyone was sane.... then everyone could own guns with no problem.... If a portion of the population is sociopathic then everyone needs to have guns.

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« Reply #35 on: September 12, 2005, 09:20:51 AM »
The real story of the US is a disfuntional criminal justice system.


If something like NO happened in Norway would you feel more comfortable with or without a weapon to protect your family?

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« Reply #36 on: September 12, 2005, 09:25:11 AM »
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The real story of the US is a disfuntional criminal justice system.

Can anyone verify? I have heard twice now that they opened the doors of the jails in NO before/during/after the hurricane and let all the inmates out. I'm skeptical that even the corrupt NO establishment would do that, but I've been suprised at much of what they did or didn't do.

Anyone?

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« Reply #37 on: September 12, 2005, 09:44:41 AM »
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Can anyone verify? I have heard twice now that they opened the doors of the jails in NO before/during/after the hurricane and let all the inmates out. I'm skeptical that even the corrupt NO establishment would do that, but I've been suprised at much of what they did or didn't do.

Anyone?


Not quite. There's a picture floating around of alot of people sitting on the end of an overpass, lots & lots of them dressed in orange. Wouldn't be unreasonable to assume a few managed to sneak off, but it seems like they still have the bulk of them.

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« Reply #38 on: September 12, 2005, 10:02:40 AM »
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nielsen...your country proves a point... as do the swiss... if people are law abiding then it doesn't matter how many guns there are.... the guns cause no problems..

The U.S. proves that... that if there is a huge criminal class that guns slow down the crime.

so... if everyone was sane.... then everyone could own guns with no problem.... If a portion of the population is sociopathic then everyone needs to have guns.

lazs


Yup.

Never had a problem with guns as a tool as long as they are kept locked up and safe. A plain hunting rifle or a regular shotgun is not very attractive to criminal elements. A pistol, a revolver or something that looks like an assault rifle is far more attractive.

You need to be an active member of a pistol club to own one here. To own a hunting weapon you need a hunting license.

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« Reply #39 on: September 12, 2005, 10:09:39 AM »
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Why not just make it safe enough so that civilians dont need guns to protect themselves?


Nilsen,

That's the problem with the left here.  They really don't understand Gun owners position and they think if they just throw enough money and social programs at it crime will go away.  The later has the opposite effect on crime.

As far as ownership goes, those who give up their means of deffense are subject to an oppressive govt.  Then there's those unknown reasons like flood, hurricanes, and of course laz's personal favorite....zomies. :cool:

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« Reply #40 on: September 12, 2005, 10:19:05 AM »
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As far as ownership goes, those who give up their means of deffense are subject to an oppressive govt.  


If you lived somewere in the third world then yes you _may_ need to protect yourself from the oppressive goverment. But here in the civilized part there is no need. :)

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« Reply #41 on: September 12, 2005, 10:38:57 AM »
I have a spare tinfoil cap if you want Nils...

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« Reply #42 on: September 12, 2005, 10:50:33 AM »
a hat is not enough, i need a complete suit

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« Reply #43 on: September 12, 2005, 11:41:15 AM »


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« Reply #44 on: September 12, 2005, 11:58:24 AM »
heheh



hahah

LOLOLOLOL


He said ..I was on the "softball" team"


I have a bat......


im still laughing