Author Topic: Another Disaster Reporter has a Rod Serling Moment (Read 4156 times)

dmf · « **Reply #45 on:** September 12, 2005, 08:27:19 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by Jackal1
Ummm mainly due to the fact that while your in the warm up box homie is going to cap your ***. That would be my guess.

At least I'll be trying to protect my daughter not in a corner begging for somethingthat isn't going to happen.

rabbidrabbit · « **Reply #46 on:** September 12, 2005, 08:30:05 PM »

monkey love?

dmf · « **Reply #47 on:** September 12, 2005, 08:33:50 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by lazs2
dmf... I assume that you are young. I am not trying to make light of your views based on that it is just that you appear to be very young based on your views on how effective a baseball bat is for self defense.

I would agree that in a lot of cases... a baseball bat in the hands of a young and strong person with the agresssive ability and hand eye co ordination to weild it would be pretty effective.

I only ask you this... would your dad do as well? How bout your grandpa? How bout the infirm old man or lady in the next building? How would you do against an armed intruder or... several intruders? Do you carry a baseball bat with you? How do you do that? has it got a sling or do you just carry it? You do know also that a baseball bat in a car without other "baseball parefenallia" is illegal in many states?

As for the dealers in question... There are very strict rules governing FFL (federal firearms licence) holders... with substantial penalties for not obeying the simplest rules... if the government makes a mistake on the forms... no big deal.. if the FFL dealer does... fines and/or imprisonment..

That is not to say that some will take the chance and sell guns illegaly... but it is rare. Also... stolen guns sell for much less than legal guns.

You are welcome to not own a gun... I would just ask that you not restrict my right to in any way. Your city probly has very strict gun control laws allready... if not, I can name some for you that have such and you can move there and enjoy whatever safety you feel that offers. but...

Like it or not... the second amendment is not about hunting. I do also hope that you realize that some of us, even some of us who can swing a bat... feel that being out in the country or rural areas that we might need to defend for hours or days until help arrives... When we see how well the government is doing protecting people in NO it doesn't exactly make us want to give up our second amendment rights.

lazs

Yes I'm young, no I don't keep my bat in my car. But I bet I can still hit a home run on the side of a inturders head, if need be.
I'm not trying to restrict your right to own a gun, I just don't see
the point in a hand held cannon for self defense. And I'd liek to see the gun laws followed by everybody so that othorities can know who has one and who doesn't.

rabbidrabbit · « **Reply #48 on:** September 12, 2005, 08:36:45 PM »

actually, a larger caliber gun would be what you want for self defense.

dmf · « **Reply #49 on:** September 12, 2005, 08:38:16 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by Pooh21
Softball?

High school softball?

Are you a chick?

We had a company softball team but that is different
When I was in school only the girls had softball teams.

Besides if you arent playing now why do you need a bat? i think it shows something wrong, if you are preparing a tool meant for playing a game to use against your fellow man, especially if he is one of our poor and underpriveliged looking to better his living enviroment.

Yes high school softball. I kept my bat and my glove and I even have a hot pink practice ball too. I still play with some of my firends when we get togeather too. We're actually going to try to get an adult team going too. but I think we'd have to let guys play too.

Jackal1 · « **Reply #50 on:** September 12, 2005, 08:45:49 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by dmf
At least I'll be trying to protect my daughter not in a corner begging for somethingthat isn't going to happen.

Ummmm...begging for something that isn`t going to happen? Wanna clear that up?

With an armed burglar, you would be just as well off with the sports page from the newspaper than you would be with the softball bat............unless maybe he keeled over with laughter.

dmf · « **Reply #51 on:** September 12, 2005, 10:05:19 PM »

Well at least I'll make the attempt, and not just scream like some stupid blonde from a b rated scifi movie.

lazs2 · « **Reply #52 on:** September 13, 2005, 09:04:03 AM »

dmf... thank you for your reply... I am not sure I understood it tho. I am getting the understanding that you don't have the bat with you most of the time that you would say is good enough for you to defend yourself and others with? Yet... you seem to be saying that.... even without it you can still "hit a home run"? sorry if I seem dense but I am not a sports guy... What do you mean?

As for large caliber weapons.... you need to either do the research or simply believe me... bullet energy is what stops agression... short explanation is.... energy is a combination of caliber (or weight) and velocity (bullet speed). Proven stoppers (not killers... 80% of people shot with handguns survive) proven stoppers (stop the fight) are either large caliber or "magnum" rounds such as the .357

As to regestration... In every case including england and australia (for modern examples) the first step in confiscation is regestration... you can't confiscate what you don't know about eh?

Now... to simply say that you believe the governments line that they have not intention of confiscation shows a rather touching naievity and.... a lack of historical perspective.

lastly.... I would not have you as my enemy... I believe that you have gotten some faulty info on guns in the past. I would be extremely happy to answer any questions you have on firearms that I am able.... If you find that I have lied to you in any way about them then I would expect you to dissregard what I say... I would expect the same thing would apply to the people that are telling you about firearms now...

For instance... if someone told you that getting rid of "assault weapons" was getting machine guns off the street and ridding us of rifles that are too powerful to even hunt with.... I would expect that you would feel betrayed and never listen to that person again.

lazs

GreenCloud · « **Reply #53 on:** September 13, 2005, 12:48:50 PM »

Nilsen..so in this wonderful "civilized " world...is this the place with no hooligans and thugs?..or is this the place where the police show up before a crime is comitted?

dmf

if we are talking about burglars coming into your house to rob...

1) do they think you are NOT at home?

2) do they think you ARE home? ( even worse)

either of theses choices ...do you think they would enter your home with no protection for them selves?..a knife?..crowbar..gun ect...

Unless you are trained in defense with your wiffle ball bat..you may be screwed

You take a swing with your large unweilding bat..you miss..then you get stabbed by the 2 crack heads that just broke in your window...id rather have a machette then a bat ..is your house big enuff to practice batting cage swings?

Really..depending on your bat for protection is really bad..I would recomend a tazer or pepper spray atleast....

Its called stand off distance..you really really should not allow someone who means you and your family harm close enuff to touch you or even get that close

If you dont feel comfortable with a firearm..then you need to get a non lethal weapon..like pepper spray..or they have great tazers now..Or go practice shooting with a friend..Its great..its not only fun..but practical.

Shotguns are extremly easy to use..and you dont have to be a great shot...if you here a window break..and you pump that slide on a 12 or hell even a 20guauge,,,any fool that keeps coming in..is defntly worthy of a "bustn a cap-in-hi-***"

BUT!!!! YOU MUST!!! MUST KEEP theses gusn safe and secured..there are a large variety of quick acces locks on the market

Lazs..btw my cousin Mark who I received all those guns from ..did have those push button revolver release for ammo...you were defntly right..much bettr

Raider179 · « **Reply #54 on:** September 13, 2005, 01:00:10 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by lazs2
You do know also that a baseball bat in a car without other "baseball parefenallia" is illegal in many states?

lazs

lol so you can carry a gun in your car with you but not a bat? wow that is ridiculous **** if I ever heard it. Might very well be true but still ridiculous.

lazs2 · « **Reply #55 on:** September 13, 2005, 02:31:56 PM »

raider... in kalifornia that is the law... you can't carry a baseball bat in the car (unlocked) unless there is other baseball parefenallia such as batting gloves or mits... the state does not allow you to carry a loaded firearm (anymore) in the vehicle. At one time you could do either of those things but that was decades ago and people are apparently genetically different now than then or.. simply have no idea how to handle freedom anymore

lazs

lazs2 · « **Reply #56 on:** September 13, 2005, 02:35:42 PM »

Now.... I don't play baseball and don't evern think I would use a bat for defense...

Basicaly... I don't give a whit about bats but.... I would never have voted for the restrictions we have on em now.

perhaps that is the real difference between how you think and how I think.

lazs

Edbert · « **Reply #57 on:** September 13, 2005, 03:59:22 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by lazs2
.. simply have no idea how to handle freedom anymore

I think that is what they call "progressiveness" now lazs, they are running from the term liberal as fast as they can. Who is opposed to progress right?

VOR · « **Reply #58 on:** September 13, 2005, 04:09:52 PM »

Hey Greencloud:

1. Nice guns.
2. Clean up your room.

lazs2 · « **Reply #59 on:** September 13, 2005, 04:11:27 PM »

well..... both rot and rust are progressive... as is all decay. These things cause the eventual colapse of strong buildings.... this is "progressive".

Liberal was not a bad word at all until the current crop who claim it did so... i imagine that "progressive" will suffer the same fate once people realize who is describing themselves as such and why.

then they will have to find a new word.

lazs