Another Disaster Reporter has a Rod Serling Moment

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by Nilsen

What will happen when the oil is gone is anybodys guess

Mass rioting, civil anarchy, etc.
Better saddle up and grab yourself a shootin iron partner. It`s not too late.
Just remember..shoot low sherrif, he`s riding a Shetland.

[Nilsen]

Originally posted by Jackal1
Mass rioting, civil anarchy, etc.
Better saddle up and grab yourself a shootin iron partner. It`s not too late.
Just remember..shoot low sherrif, he`s riding a Shetland.

Doubtfull

We dont need oil, its a nice bonus.

[Raider179]

Originally posted by lazs2
raider... I don't know off hand.. I will ask the cops I know.. It is the same charge tho as having a tire iron or billy club in the car.

I'm off today.. gonna go sight in my M1 garand (that is a WW2 era semi auto rifle in 30-06)  with some ammo I reloaded.   Will probly see the police out at my facility thursday and will ask em then.

lazs

I am guessing it is gonna be something to do with the Baton law, but I can't see how they could pass a law saying no baseball bats. If there really is one, I would say CA has finally lost it.

[Jackal1]

California
In California, it is illegal to posses bear gall bladders.
In California, it is illegal to trip horses for entertainment.
In Blythe, California, a person must own two cows in order to legally wear cowboy boots in public.
In Los Angeles, a man is legally entitled to beat his wife with a leather belt or strap, but the belt can't be wider than 2 inches, unless he has his wife's consent to beat her with a wider strap. (Loony Laws" by Robert Pelton)
It is illegal to set a mousetrap without a hunting license.
Community leaders passed an ordinance that makes it illegal for anyone to try and stop a child from playfully jumping over puddles of water.
In L.A. it is against the law to complain through the mail that a hotel has cockroaches, even if it is true.
It is illegal to drive more than two thousand sheep down Hollywood Blvd. at one time.
It is illegal to whistle for a lost canary before 7 am in Berkeley, CA.
San Francisco is said to be the only city in the nation to have ordinances guaranteeing sunshine to the masses.
In Cupertino, California, it is illegal to count backwards audibly in hexadecimal.
The good burghers of Redwood City have outlawed the frying of gravy.
In Santa Clara, it is forbidden to dedicate parking spaces to the patron saint of television.
Prostitutes in San Francisco are not obliged to make change for bills larger than $50.
The city of Mountain View proscribes calling pet fish by "names of aggressive content, e.g. 'Biter', 'Killer', 'Sugar-Ray'"
Bicycles may not be ridden without "appropriate fashion accessories" anywhere in Santa Clara County (de facto law).
It is illegal to skateboard on walls "or other vertical surfaces" in Palo Alto.
Wearing a sweatshirt inside-out is deemed a "threatening misdemeanor" in Half-Moon Bay.
In 1930, the City Council of Ontario (California) passed an ordinance forbidding roosters to crow within the city limits.
In Los Angeles, you cannot bathe two babies in the same tub at the same time. (Loony Laws" by Robert Pelton)
In California, animals are banned from mating publicly within 1,500 feet of a tavern, school, or place of worship. (Loony Laws" by Robert Pelton)
Peeling an orange in your hotel room is banned in California (Legal Lunacy)
Los Angeles "Daily News": Have you ever had the urge to rip the tag from a pillow or mattress, despite the warning of dire penalties? Well, it's perfectly legal now, if you live in Colorado. Governor Roy Romer formalized the law by gleefully tearing a label from a pillow at his office. "I've been worrying about the mattress inspector jumping through the window for years," he said.

[Jackal1]

Texas:
A city ordinance states that a person cannot go barefoot without first obtaining a special five-dollar permit.
It is illegal to take more than three sips of beer at a time while standing.
It is Texas law that when two trains meet each other at a railroad crossing, each shall come to a full stop, and neither shall proceed until the other has gone. In one of those "true facts" books there was an explanation for this law. It seems that one of the state senators did not want a law passed. To keep this particular law from passing, he attached the train law to it. He hoped that his fellow senators would discover the train law attached, see how ridiculous it was, and not pass the laws. Nobody saw the the train law attached and passed both laws. This may not be the real reason, but it sounds good. And it might explain some of the laws we have to live with.
In Texas, on one other than a registered pharmacist" may sell condoms or other kinds of contraceptives "on the street or other public places." Not even Physicians! Anyone one who tries to make a few extra bucks doing this will be severaly prosecuted for the dire act of "unlawfully practicing medicine."
A recently passed anti-crime law requires criminals to give their victims 24 hours notice, either orally or in writing, and to explain the nature of the crime to be committed...
In Lefors, it is illegal to take more than three swallows of beer at any time while standing.
In San Antonio, it is illegal for both sexes to flirt or respond to flirtation using the eyes and/or hands.

[Raider179]

Originally posted by lazs2
neilsen...  I enjoy firearms in any case and feel that the founding fathers were correct in thinking (as do the swiss) that a nation of riflemen was a good safeguard to freedom...

lazs

Actually the militia was a farce. They were ineffective in battle and fled usually after the first volley. Thats if they even bothered to show up at all. They were very poor as a defense force and even worse as attackers.

A quote from George Washington letter to the Continental Congress, September 24, 1776 (founding Father)

"To place any dependance upon Militia, is, assuredly, resting upon a broken staff. Men just dragged from the tender Scenes of domestick life; unaccustomed to the din of Arms; totally unacquainted with every kind of Military skill, which being followed by a want of confidence in themselves, when opposed to Troops regulary train'd, disciplined, and appointed, superior in knowledge, and superior in Arms, makes them timid, and ready to fly from their own shadows."


Alexander Hamiliton Federalist Papers

"Here I expect we shall be told that the militia of the country is its natural bulwark, and would beat all times equal to the national defense. This doctrine, in substance had like to have lost us our independence. It cost millions to the United States that might have been saved. The facts which from our own experience forbid any reliance of this kind are too recent to permit us to be the dupes of such a suggestion. The steady operations of war against a regular and disciplined army can only be successfully conducted by a force of the same kind."

The militia was a terrible fighting force, unable to defend the US from any attack by regular troops or even large forces of Indians. Basically the only reason it survived so long is the fear of a standing army.

[Toad]

Lexington. Concord.

[Raider179]

Originally posted by Toad
Lexington. Concord.

Do you really want me to start listing off the engagements the militia fled from?

You will notice that the quote from George is after Lexington/Concord. He knew it was an isolated victory and it was.

You do of course know that there were 100's of minutemen assembled in lexington green and then they opened the tavern, they got drunk and that number turned into 70. The Brits came, told them to disperse, which they were in the process of doing and then someone fired a shot. (Several sources say it came from the tavern window) The Brits formed, volleyed, and bayonet charged those left in the green. Then on the way back to Boston the minutemen employed hit and run tactics very effectively. Yet this was an isolated victory for the militia and for the most part they were ineffective and a danger to regular troops because of their tendency to flee.

You do of course know that minutemen and militia are not quite the same thing. Minutemen were the cream of the crop(as far as citizen-soldiers go) and the militia well it was the bottum of the crop.

"Although the terms militia and minutemen are sometimes used interchangeably today, in the 18th century there was a decided difference between the two. Militia were men in arms formed to protect their towns from foreign invasion and ravages of war. Minutemen were a small hand-picked elite force which were required to be highly mobile and able to assemble quickly. Minutemen were selected from militia muster rolls by their commanding officers. Typically 25 years of age or younger, they were chosen for their enthusiasm, reliability, and physical strength. Usually about one quarter of the militia served as Minutemen, performing additional duties as such."

[Jackal1]

By gawd if the ATF had of been there it would have all got sorted out.

[Toad]

The American Revolution started with those ill-trained, worthless militia. At Lexington and Concord.

Did they need further training? Sure. The entire American army had no real training until  Louis DuPortail, Thaddeus Kosciuszko, Pulaski, Johann de Kalb, Friedrich von Steuben anmd  Gilbert du Montier (the Marquis de Lafayette) showed up to help out.

And who did they train? They trained a lot of former militia and other volunteers.

[Raider179]

Originally posted by Toad
The American Revolution started with those ill-trained, worthless militia. At Lexington and Concord.

Did they need further training? Sure. The entire American army had no real training until  Louis DuPortail, Thaddeus Kosciuszko, Pulaski, Johann de Kalb, Friedrich von Steuben anmd  Gilbert du Montier (the Marquis de Lafayette) showed up to help out.

And who did they train? They trained a lot of former militia and other volunteers.

Even after training the militia was still worthless. The Continental Army was remarkebly improved but the militia was still by a huge margian, worthless in battle.

The militia if anything left other troops exposed because you never knew when they would flee/desert/ or abandon the campaigns. Hell and that was IF you could even get them together to fight in the first place.

[Raider179]

Originally posted by Jackal1
By gawd if the ATF had of been there it would have all got sorted out.

lol no doubt there.

[Toad]

Who do you think made up the initial cadre of the Contintental Army?

[rabbidrabbit]

Originally posted by Raider179
Even after training the militia was still worthless. The Continental Army was remarkebly improved but the militia was still by a huge margian, worthless in battle.

The militia if anything left other troops exposed because you never knew when they would flee/desert/ or abandon the campaigns. Hell and that was IF you could even get them together to fight in the first place.

They did quite well even at lex and concord.. you might want to read past chapter 3..

[Toad]

He might also want to check out some former militia officers that were in the Continental Army.