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« Reply #60 on: September 14, 2005, 06:42:12 PM »
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Eitehr way he's looting.  I suppose you guys with the crystal balls out there know what's in the black bag?

Either way this is pointless.  I posted this to counter MT's and other liberal assertions that race had somthing to do with the caption......the photographers say otherwise....


It's not looting if its neccesary for survival.

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« Reply #61 on: September 14, 2005, 06:44:49 PM »
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It was a black kid leaving a grocery store after a huge disaster. Not some gang-banger leaving footlocker with 50 pairs of shoes. I guess you can't understand the difference.

I see someone doing what they have to do to survive, you see a petty criminal.

They also saw the white couple standing outside the store catching stuff as it floated out the door. You gonna tell me that is not stealing as per your definition?

I don't have to try again, You have shown you have no compassion for those trapped in NO.

Glad you are not down here helping GunSmoker you'd probably shoot someone for making off with a loaf of bread and then say it was a looter. Really nice guy.


so you are saying the photgraphs are completly related to race and not what the ONHAND EYEWITNESSED photographers say.

I say it's not racial

You say re-read it

I do and say it's not racial

You say they weren't looters cause they were taking food

Again I say it's not racial and some looting is acceptable.

Where else do you want to spin this argument.  Or do you really have the gall to disagree with the poeple that took the pictures and captioned them based on eye witness accounts

and again do you know what's in the black bag?

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« Reply #62 on: September 14, 2005, 06:46:55 PM »
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It's not looting if its neccesary for survival.


no it's called acceptable looting.  If you take something that doesnt belong to you it's still called stealing.  even if you stole it to survive.....that's called extenuating circumstances

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« Reply #63 on: September 14, 2005, 07:19:40 PM »
I agree guns..EVERYBODY that had ANYTHING they did not pay forr in their possesion is a LOOTER..what these guys fail to understand is the easy point you are trying to make which is the photos were taken by and captioned by TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE  that work for DIFFERENT agencies who put their OWN point of view on them...but no you can't talk any sense into these people that belive that the racial attitudes are still the same or worse than they were in the period between the end of the War between the states and the civil rights movemnet.

I don't know..I'm not seeing it in here anywhere
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« Reply #64 on: September 14, 2005, 07:38:27 PM »
Why delete your post Godzilla.  That was accurate and well said.  Of course Raider will choose to completly ignore it and make up his on facts based on assumptions of people that weren't even there.

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« Reply #65 on: September 14, 2005, 07:42:33 PM »
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so you are saying the photgraphs are completly related to race and not what the ONHAND EYEWITNESSED photographers say.

 


Bingo.

Your onhand witnesses saw the same thing. They just reported it differently. 1 was a black kid who took from a grocery store. The 2nd was a white couple who waited outside the doors of a grocery store for stuff to float out to them. Not a bit of difference except color.

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« Reply #66 on: September 14, 2005, 07:43:50 PM »
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I agree guns..EVERYBODY that had ANYTHING they did not pay forr in their possesion is a LOOTER..what these knuckleheads fail to understand is the easy point you are trying to make which is the photos were taken by and captioned by TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE  that work for DIFFERENT agencies who put their OWN point of view on them...but no you can't talk any sense into these people that belive that the racial attitudes are still the same or worse than they were in the period between the end of the War between the states and the civil rights movemnet.


I think EVERYONE understands it's by 2 different photographers numbnuts. It's reflection on how we(as a society) see 2 similar events so differently. One is searching for food and the other is a looter. You do the math.

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« Reply #67 on: September 14, 2005, 07:45:35 PM »
"numbnuts"??
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« Reply #68 on: September 14, 2005, 07:45:54 PM »
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I think EVERYONE understands it's by 2 different photographers numbnuts. .


Why do you have to be insulting? No better way to make your point? Better watch out, your maturity level is showing.:aok
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« Reply #69 on: September 14, 2005, 07:55:36 PM »
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"numbnuts"??


yup.  I have to agree in his math 1+1 might equal 2 depending on which one is black and which one is white

"on hand witnesses saw the same thing"  Yup two different people reported seeing two different events in two totally different locations yet it was the "same thing"

Again Raider what's in the black bag?


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« Reply #70 on: September 14, 2005, 07:56:31 PM »
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Why do you have to be insulting? No better way to make your point? Better watch out, your maturity level is showing.:aok


point???? he has a point????? since when?????  ;)

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« Reply #71 on: September 14, 2005, 07:57:44 PM »
top of his head.     since birth.
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« Reply #72 on: September 14, 2005, 08:02:23 PM »
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Why do you have to be insulting? No better way to make your point? Better watch out, your maturity level is showing.:aok

Insult for insult, you called us knuckleheads, I called you numbnuts.

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« Reply #73 on: September 14, 2005, 08:03:44 PM »
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yup.  I have to agree in his math 1+1 might equal 2 depending on which one is black and which one is white

"on hand witnesses saw the same thing"  Yup two different people reported seeing two different events in two totally different locations yet it was the "same thing"

Again Raider what's in the black bag?



Not sure, but you can clearly see a package of SOFT DRINKS under his arm.

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« Reply #74 on: September 14, 2005, 08:03:53 PM »
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I agree guns..EVERYBODY that had ANYTHING they did not pay forr in their possesion is a LOOTER..what these guys fail to understand is the easy point you are trying to make which is the photos were taken by and captioned by TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE  that work for DIFFERENT agencies who put their OWN point of view on them...but no you can't talk any sense into these people that belive that the racial attitudes are still the same or worse than they were in the period between the end of the War between the states and the civil rights movemnet.


where did I say knucleheads?
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