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« Reply #75 on: September 14, 2005, 08:08:28 PM »
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where did I say knucleheads?


You edited your post, but luckily I quoted you. Man that is really weak bro. At least have the spine to stand behind what you say instead of editing and then LYING about it.

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« Reply #76 on: September 14, 2005, 08:09:56 PM »
it's the voices.. the voices told him you were thinking 'knuckleheads', so it's not his fault.

It's the voices talk to me too... they're saying "raider is a pinhead.. a piiiiinheaaaaad.."
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« Reply #77 on: September 14, 2005, 08:12:35 PM »
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You edited your post, but luckily I quoted you. Man that is really weak bro. At least have the spine to stand behind what you say instead of editing and then LYING about it.


I'm just messin' with ya..because it's just soooo easy
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« Reply #78 on: September 14, 2005, 08:13:05 PM »
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it's the voices.. the voices told him you were thinking 'knuckleheads', so it's not his fault.

It's the voices talk to me too... they're saying "raider is a pinhead.. a piiiiinheaaaaad.."


sure buddy. I know your no sherlock holmes but it doesnt take much of a genius to look and see what he did.

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« Reply #79 on: September 14, 2005, 08:14:35 PM »
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I'm just messin' with ya..because it's just soooo easy


If I know what happened how is it messin with me? but glad to know your not that dishonest or dumb. :)

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« Reply #80 on: September 14, 2005, 08:15:37 PM »
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sure buddy. I know your no sherlock holmes but it doesnt take much of a genius to look and see what he did.


:lol  You see I completely diverted  your attention away from the conversation. No spine..no I don't think so...just a sense of humor..you should get one..they are fun.
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« Reply #81 on: September 14, 2005, 08:17:00 PM »
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Not sure, but you can clearly see a package of SOFT DRINKS under his arm.


so he clearly could be a looter like the guy that saw him that WAS THERE but you don't know for sure.

You are just assuming this is a racial thing then?

I'd go with the person that took the picture's assesment over yours.

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« Reply #82 on: September 14, 2005, 09:43:14 PM »
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so he clearly could be a looter like the guy that saw him that WAS THERE but you don't know for sure.

You are just assuming this is a racial thing then?

I'd go with the person that took the picture's assesment over yours.


I'm sure you would. So this photographer who shot this picture and saw him looting in the store and this is the worst picture he got of the kid stealing? Where is picture of the kid filling the trash bag with beer or magazines? He saw him right? He is a AP photographer iirc. You gonna tell me he didn't have his camera when the kid was in the store but he had it in time to catch him in the water? righhtttt

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« Reply #83 on: September 14, 2005, 09:54:13 PM »
The shot fired over the heads of people on the crescent city connection happened after a large crowd became unruly when a suspect was being handcuffed. The suspect had been chased from the scene of an arson. There was one shot gun round fired and the crowd dispersed. Now its YOUR turn to explain YOUR racist overtones , Chairboy. You have an agenda against law enforcement, Chairboy? Explain YOUR distortion of the facts.
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So WHAT THE HELL is YOUR problem, Chairboy??

And ya know what Chairboy, I don't mean to be hard on you. You are a victim of the distorted story presented in the media. For the first time in two weeks, I am in the same state as my two other brothers, and twenty minutes ago we were in the same room. The further away from New Orleans, the more bizarre the stories. My oldest brother was in Nashville this morning and was afraid to come home because of water contamination and looting. Neither has been a problem where we live. His outlet has been the national media which has distorted everything.
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« Reply #84 on: September 14, 2005, 10:10:34 PM »
Umm, BTW, I think you're referring to a different incident.  I'm guessing you missed where the Gretna police chief admitted that he ordered the police to seal off the bridge?
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« Reply #85 on: September 14, 2005, 10:19:57 PM »
The Gretna police sealed the bridge and put buses  on the bridge to evac people after looters shot an NOPD officer in the head. Did you get that fact from the national distorted media? The Nopd officer shot in the head survived. I'm sure you are glad for that fact.

Chairboy- I am here in Algiers - a suberb of New Orleans. I know exactly what is going on. And its a lot better than what is presented. Nagin is saying he may open the CBD, Uptown and Algiers on Monday. Algiers is ****already up****** you heard it here first.

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« Reply #86 on: September 14, 2005, 10:32:24 PM »
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I'm sure you would. So this photographer who shot this picture and saw him looting in the store and this is the worst picture he got of the kid stealing? Where is picture of the kid filling the trash bag with beer or magazines? He saw him right? He is a AP photographer iirc. You gonna tell me he didn't have his camera when the kid was in the store but he had it in time to catch him in the water? righhtttt


so now you are a world class profesional photographer that has the pleasure of hindsite to know that your photo is going to cause contraversy and you have to take more photos as proof to justify your caption in order to avoid being pegged as a racist?

I mean c'mon this is a stretch of reality even for you.  They author says he saw the guy looting a store so he labled him a looter.  By the very definition it's the truth.

You need ALL of this proof just to prove there's no racial undertones to the picture or the caption?

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« Reply #87 on: September 14, 2005, 10:45:01 PM »
Gotta say, BTW, I'm not sure where you're coming from with the vitriole....  or facts.

Gotta say, your credibility isn't in great shape.  First, you try and tell us that the bridge was open and that the fuss was because all the 'negroes' were marching on Gretna to steal televisions and chose not to take the first offramp.  Of course, we later established that the bridge was blocked halfway.

Odd.

Next, you tell us some story about the crowd becoming upset because of some arsonist being arrested.  That's right out of left field, no idea where that comes from.

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In an interview with UPI, Gretna Police Chief Arthur Lawson confirmed that his department shut down the bridge to pedestrians: "If we had opened the bridge, our city would have looked like New Orleans does now: looted, burned and pillaged."


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"We shut down the bridge," Arthur Lawson, chief of the City of Gretna Police Department, confirmed to United Press International, adding that his jurisdiction had been "a closed and secure location" since before the storm hit.

"All our people had evacuated and we locked the city down," he said.

The bridge in question—the Crescent City Connection—is the major artery heading west out of New Orleans across the Mississippi River.

Lawson said that once the storm itself had passed Monday, police from Gretna City, Jefferson Parrish and the Louisiana State Crescent City Connection Police Department closed to foot traffic the three access points to the bridge closest to the West Bank of the river.

He added that the small town, which he called "a bedroom community" for the city of New Orleans, would have been overwhelmed by the influx.

What part of that quote from the police chief are you unclear on?
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« Reply #88 on: September 14, 2005, 10:59:44 PM »
Your reading comprehension is not my problem. The bridge was not shut down until the SECOND DAY - did you read that correctly?

I have not ONCE used the term "negroes" but YOU ***did**

I have not once stated "negroes" were stealing television sets, but YOU did.

isn't it VERY strange how bigots always reveal themselves, and you sir, are a bigot.

If you think you stereotypical view of this complex tragedy impresses anyone, well idiocy is as idiocy does.

Er let me ask you - how many of Gretna police officers are black?
How many of Gretna's black police officers were on duty during this incident?

You talk about my credibility while you put words in my mouth that I have never uttered. You cant find a post to quote what you've attributed to me. Yet you think lies will impess people. Ok you say I've said things you cant actually quote from a post. I say you are a liar. Now post the proof to back up your accusations. Otherwise you are just a liar.
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« Reply #89 on: September 14, 2005, 11:10:06 PM »
Hmmm...   I'm beginning to suspect you may not be fully engaged.
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