Lawrence Thompson meets Hartmann's G-14

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by JB12
clueless as to what?
4. That you want to bait me ,to show that you have some kind of higher reasoning than most people?
JB12

Bait?  You're the boy making light of WWII pilots.  

Karaya

[Creton]

edited my post for you,read it again ,although I bet you'll have some witty comment to make.
Although I find it amzing that the there's a disclaimer to the story in question and yet  it remains on the table to be argued.Please read the disclaimer posted just prior to the start of the story on this web site as well as many others

http://www.virtualpilots.fi/hist/WW2History-ErichHartmann.html

But I'm sure some ,who have no clue either, only what they conjecture or fabricate will contend that it was indeed Hartman.I'm a big fan of Hartmans history and acomplishments.

JB12

[DipStick]

Originally posted by JB12
in fact it probably

being "clueless" I guess

some call it disrespect -----

JB12

You are a walking contridiction in terms.

As is the "disclaimer" on your website.

the concensus on this story seems to be that it is not authentic. If the story is real
 
Hence the "clueless" comment.

[Creton]

I'm sure that someone of your caliber can see that "concensus" means the majority believe it to be false.Why do you think the belive it to be false?Probably because there's no supporting evidence proving it was indeed Hartman.You prove nothing by calling me a contrdiction ,that's just a half hearted attempt to bash my character because I offended your belief,or at least what you the minority who belive it was Hartman think.You took my comments about Thompson prefering the incounter to be with Hartman as an insult.Prove that it was indeed Hartman and I stand corrected.All of which is a mute point because as I've stated none of us were there and records do not reflect that was  Hartman.Further more there's even a belief that the story may not even be true at all,only folklore,of which many heros have been born of.

JB12

[Masherbrum]

Quit backpedaling please.

Karaya

[Creton]

I havent backed up at all.You still say it was and I still say it wasnt as does the general concensus.Good attempt though,I'll give it  a 3 for originality.

JB12

[Angus]

So conclusion?
Did this guy meet Hartmann or not?
Best would be to check dates.
Anyway what did Hartmann do when he got jumped by a gaggle of 51's?

[DipStick]

Originally posted by JB12
I'm sure that someone of your caliber can see that "concensus" means the majority believe it to be false

That doesn't make it false.

Why do you think the belive it to be false?Probably because there's no supporting evidence proving it was indeed Hartman.

There's nothing proving it was NOT Hartman either.

You prove nothing by calling me a contrdiction ,that's just a half hearted attempt to bash my character because I offended your belief,or at least what you the minority who belive it was Hartman think.

I don't care if the story is true or not. I just don't like some punk behind a computer passing judgement on a war hero.

You took my comments about Thompson prefering the incounter to be with Hartman as an insult.Prove that it was indeed Hartman and I stand corrected.

Prove:
a) Thompson prefered the incounter to be with Hartman
b) That the 109 in question was NOT Hartman
or
c) STFU.

All of which is a mute point because as I've stated none of us were there and records do not reflect that was  Hartman.Further more there's even a belief that the story may not even be true at all,only folklore,of which many heros have been born of.

So why post in this thread in the first place?

JB12

[Westy]

lol.  Same thing happens anytime someone posts the story of Lowell (P-38) almost killing Galland ("long nosed" 190) in a dogfight

[Creton]

You think that I'm a punk and yet you dont even know me or my military history or anything,I just stood on the opposite side of the fence from you and you took it as a personal insult.It is'nt I who needs to prove anything.They were both great pilots.It's nothing against either one to make a comment regarding the other.You just can't stand your ground without a personal attack.

JB12

[DipStick]

I didn't say you were the punk. You got a guilty conscience?

As for personal attacks, yes anyone who calls a soldier a lair without concrete proof will hear from me.

REREAD THIS OBJECTIVELY:

"I would think that Thompson would've rathered it to be Hartman other wise he was outflown by a rookie 109 pileit.
Of course he was probably making it up to impress his squadiies and didnt realize the all knowing AH2 fantics would know the difference,but we do."

I'm done with the "discussion". You will obviously never 'get it'. Shame really after having it explained to you in such detail. Oh well, I tried.

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by DipStick
I didn't say you were the punk. You got a guilty conscience?

As for personal attacks, yes anyone who calls a soldier a lair without concrete proof will hear from me.

REREAD THIS OBJECTIVELY:

"I would think that Thompson would've rathered it to be Hartman other wise he was outflown by a rookie 109 pileit.
Of course he was probably making it up to impress his squadiies and didnt realize the all knowing AH2 fantics would know the difference,but we do."

I'm done with the "discussion". You will obviously never 'get it'. Shame really after having it explained to you in such detail. Oh well, I tried.

<> Dipstick.  He IS a punk.

Karaya

[Creton]

LMAO!
what a weak bellybutton attempt at a put down ,and you even had to have your minime handpuppet  back you up on it.
Get over it.I bet you believe everything you've ever read.
In no way was it an attempt to belittle Thompson,and there were a whole lot worse statements made by other BBS members.However you chose mine to start your little crusade.
See you in the vertual skies,hopefully you'll be a pony and we can reinact the scenerio.I just wish the animated pilots gave animated hand gestures.
And some how I think that you'll post again,seems to be "last word thing"

JB12

[parin]

"I would think that Thompson would've rathered it to be Hartman other wise he was outflown by a rookie 109 pileit."

[/B]

Sarcasm right?

[Angus]

There were other good 109 Pilots than Hartman, and although he is the top scorer, he was probably not the best duelist.
Best deflection shooter is told to have been Rall, and the best stuntpilot Marseille.....