depression

[BluKitty]

I dont expect them to just wave a wand and cure me, I think its mostly up to me.

Some seem to disagree with what I said.... "What do you want out of life?"


they feel examineing yourself is a bad idea- mentaly beating yourself up over your problems ... well that's not what I'm saying .... that IS a bad idea.

I'm saying- what is a fix for some people, like exercise or being extra social etc, isn't nessecarly the fix for you.

You need to figure out your wants .... Not reflect and beat yourself up over your life and mistakes etc.... I'm not saying that....

I am saying that what helped me get out of deppression, very likely won't work for you.

Alot of people here seem to think what helped them is a sure fix for you, Fubar.

I think talking to a Doc can help.

Exercise can help too I think.... but you might already be fit and healthy....  

what I'm saying is- Figure out what you want out of life ... then just do it.

[RobMo68]

Originally posted by FuBaR
Hurts ALOT  more If I dont tell others im hurting, and just need help

See Fubar,

See what has happened since ya opened the door and said "I NEED HELP" ! That was the first step in your recovery, and look at what it brought ya! I told ya, YOU ARE NOT ALONE , and look at how many peeps here that have either been through it themselves or have family/friends goin through it, and those that are still sloggin their way out of it! They all make sense (cept the lame flamers) in some way or another. One thing is for sure though, Only You CAN dig urself outta this, others can help you along the way, but only you CAN really do the diggin!
It really does help when you kick open the door and let people in, that have delt with this pain in some way or nother. All the shrinks and pills in the world are NOT goin to help you like a good dose of FRIENDSHIP CAN!
You've got the first step nailed good, the next is up to you! Tell your family and personal friends about your sitrep and if they do care about you, like alot of peeps here, they WILL listen and try to help you through it! HAVE YOU DONE THAT YET ?FRIENDSHIP CAN HELP! So GET ER DONE !

[SirLoin]

Originally posted by SirLoin
And if all else fails..rent/buy Gilligan's Island first season(in B&W)..

i meant that as a cheerup suggestion...piked wrong smilie thingie

[fartwinkle]

Originally posted by Jackal1
Every feeling you have is a chemical reaction in the brain or an electrical impulse.
  You either control them or let them roll down hill.

Indeed but when people are having suicidal thoughts {very common in depression} It aint normal and expert help is required.

Oh and did I miss something? where did you go to medical school?
Or are you really Tom Cruise LOL?

It is iresponsable to tell someone who may have a depression problem to just suck it up.

Infact its stupid.
If I where you I would not be giving out advice to someone unless I was trained in the subject as It could do more harm than good.

Look for a good doctor and go see him find out what is going on from a professional.

After all if you hade a vintage P-51 would you take it to jiffy lube for service?

Trust me it will get better but only after you take charge of your own mental health.
Be pro active .

[eagl]

The best thing I can suggest is to find something you enjoy doing, preferrably a few things you enjoy, and make them part of your life.  Quit worrying about other people's standards because you can never live up to what everyone else things you *should* be doing or thinking.

My Dad suffers from mild depression...  Doesn't like to plan vacations or travel but enjoys himself if someone else does.  Is perfectly happy spending the day reading the paper, checking some internet stuff, listening to music, and maybe walking to the store for groceries and stuff.  Every once in a while, he feels the motivation to go do something and he goes and does it.  But when he doesn't feel like doing anything, he falls back on whatever it is that he DOES feel like doing, and to hell with what anyone thinks.

Shed negativity.  Seriously, if there is someone or something in your life that's dragging you down, avoidance may help.  You *should* be doing whatever the hell it is you want to do, as long as it's not destructive, illegal, or non-sustaining from a well-being point of view.  For example, even if you don't like your job you can't just quit unless you find another one, you can't quit going to the grocery store just because you hate standing in line at the checkout, etc.  But if a "friend" keeps bagging on you for doing or not doing something, or not being a certain way, then they're not a friend and you need to hang with someone else.

Fitness...  I feel better after exercising and I feel better when I'm in good shape.  Every time I work out it hurts like hell because of a not totally successful back surgery, but if I don't work out then it'll be worse and it would hurt all the time.  If you feel sore for no reason, it's your body telling you that you're so out of shape that even daily life is too strenuous.  So go put some physical stress on your body in a healthy way, and build back up some natural resistance to the world in general.

If necessary, pay to go to a fitness center and get a personal trainer, if you simply can't get started or don't know how to make fitness part of your lifestyle.  Once you get into the good habits, you'll feel better all the time for no reason other than you're healthy.

Smokers feel that way just from lighting up and smoking is a proven weight-loss technique, but the downside of cancer is a pretty big deterrent in my book so I don't suggest trying that.

[Simaril]

Originally posted by SirLoin
And if all else fails..rent/buy Gilligan's Island first season(in B&W)..

For sheer campiness, consider first season of Lost in Space or the really over the top Batman series from the sixties.

Of course, nausea may be an unintended side effect

[FuBaR]

[xrtoronto]

FUBAR I am hoping that a little understanding of the dynamics of depression may help.

Anger and depression are related. If something happened that made you very angry, and it wasn't your fault for example, it is important to address the situation and find a way to 'express' the feelings associated with the event(s).

If a person does feel intense anger over something (or accumulative things) and if for the most part the anger is not outwardly expressed what happens is predicable. When anger is internalized and not expressed outwardly it can/will manifest itself with sypmtoms of depression.

Try to think of anger and depression as opposite ends of the same striaght line and having the same source.

You will find without exception that all the great artists, regardless of their chosen field of expression all have had to deal with intense feelings. Conflict is the essential component in all great art. Conflict can only exist as man against man, man against nature and man against himself.

The difficult task is to find a release for yourself...to find what works for you. The most important thing you can do is talk about it. Externalize how you feel. I would definately suggest a medical professional only because they are trained to be objective and that allows you to truely be honest about your feelings without them becoming emotionally involved.

The journey out of this dark abyss can be long and difficult. It is important to have someone who can remind you about the light at the end of the tunnel when you are unable to find it.

I have sent you some email; please don't hesitate to contact me.

[FuBaR]

100% right toronto, and yes I have had very angering times, and still suffer from anger problems.

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by fartwinkle
Indeed but when people are having suicidal thoughts {very common in depression} It aint normal and expert help is required.

Oh and did I miss something? where did you go to medical school?
 

 The school of life shortcake.
Where did you go to reading comprehension class at?
He has been going to "professionals".
I will be more than glad to argue with you on just about any subject, but this is not the place.
Keep your juvenile thoughts to yourself or start another thread.
Some of us are trying to support and do what we can to help Fub out on this.
You see, some of us have and are dealing with some of the same things as Fub and have a few ideas that actualy work...............That and we sorta like the kid.

[FUNKED1]

Originally posted by FuBaR
Can anyone tell me good ways to deal with gut wrenching depression, other than meds, therapy, and toughining up.

If you refuse any of those solutions, just kill yourself now, idiot.  Go see a real doctor now or STFU and get off the board.  You have got to be kidding me, asking this AMC Gremlin full of clowns for medical advice.

[xrtoronto]

Originally posted by FuBaR
100% right toronto, and yes I have had very angering times, and still suffer from anger problems.

A majority of people have a buffer zone...what I mean is if something happens to make us angry, most of the time an individual can resolve the issue. However, if another person has had a lot of situations that leave them feeling angry and the anger is not addressed and resolved then it will remain and 'boil' like a saucepan on the back burner of a stove. The next time even a "little" thing happens then this person explodes into a rage. It is a disproportionate response.
It is interesting to know that once any single source of anger is addressed and expressed and resolved it goes away and will never return. It simply dissolves.
I like what Filth said about finding someone who you feel comfortable talking to. I think that is the best place to start...express your feelings...externalize them. (even if that means writing things to yourself--no one else ever has to read your notes)

[FuBaR]

Originally posted by FUNKED1
If you refuse any of those solutions, just kill yourself now, idiot.  Go see a real doctor now or STFU and get off the board.  You have got to be kidding me, asking this AMC Gremlin full of clowns for medical advice.

A hug would have said the same things.

[Gunthr]

The best way out is to find your anger, and use it to get physical excersise, which really will change your chemistry.  Try a bicycle.

Oh, and see a doctor.  Some drugs can help, but ask questions about being able to get off them at some point.

Some of the goons around here have the constitution of roaches, and would survive an atomic holocaust with a good attitude, so don't listen to them...

[Meatwad]

I just found out I have Bipolar disorder. What keeps me good is going outside in the fresh air and staying busy. If you know someone out in the country, go there and live the country life for a few days. Trust me, it does wonders!