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Offline SOB

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« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2005, 10:52:57 PM »
You just need a little Scientology!
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« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2005, 11:03:32 PM »
There's no such thing as depression you dolts, Tom Cruise said so, it a HAS to be true it just HAS to!


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« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2005, 11:09:17 PM »
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GET OFF THE COMPUTER
"   nailed it!   Spending alot of time on the PC can give people a depressive state, Kinda like living Michigan from November 1st thru May 1st .....every day is cloudy driery and tends to be called cabin fever (just an example)  get out do things!  met people!  try new things out side of sitting behind your PC.


I work begind a PC all day long (8am - till 6pm) and then spent alot of time after for gaming and chatting(depends sometime i  might never leave till bed, others i bolt out the door),   but what i really want is to go out and be socail (so i do)

Only you can make you happy, and only you know what will make you happy!  -no its not all T & A!!!!!

"Remember one thing i'm no better than anyone else" (even thought we l33ts like tothink we are in ouir own minds)


Fubar  Best of luck!   get  out of them funky cloths man!
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« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2005, 11:15:04 PM »
Meds help in the short run, but they aren't something you should be taking long term at your age.  But they can help you get over the hump...get you past that "activation energy level" so that you can employ more long term solutions.

I agree that exercise is amazing in helping cure both of your problems.  You will become more self confident and unashamed of any imperfections you perceive may be holding you back from attracting a gf.  Also with the self confidence, you can muster the courage to ask someone out.  Starting the exercise routine is the hardest part and then not making excuses to get out of the routine...even for 1 day.  Choose an exercise routine that you can tolerate or even enjoy.  Personally, I don't like running...so my choice was swimming...augmented with weights.  In winter, I would do weights alone.

You've also taken a good step just by asking for help and suggestions.  Sorry we are a lousy bunch to call friends, Dash, but at least we do enjoy your virtual company, banter, and...well...having a little good spirited fun at your expense. ;) But you do have to do more.  You need to engage others in local reality as much as you do via the internet.

It takes a concious decision to make yourself change so that you can take that next step.  It can be a bit scary to change because of the expectations others have of how you normally behave (if your brother is not supportive or makes fun of your behavior change, you will need to simply look past it...I know it is not that simple, but you have to make yourself do it).  But it is something you really have want...and believe me, you can make the changes in your attitude and behavior if you choose. Lord knows I have myself...high school was not my best time...very introverted. But I decided that is not the way I wanted to be for the rest of my life.  When I went off to college many hundreds of miles from home at age 17, I had my opportunity to become what I wanted...and just did it.

As another alternative, if you need someone to help you motivate to give you the character changes you desire, you can always consider the military.  Besides...chicks dig uniforms! :D  The Navy can certainly train you in firefighting as well as the Air Force so that you will be prepared to join a department when you get out.

Edit: Spade, I see you're reading this thread.  Give your bro any support you can to help.
« Last Edit: September 20, 2005, 11:21:07 PM by crowMAW »

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« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2005, 11:18:05 PM »
sure it only covers it up

Hell thats what I want I live 10k miles from where I want to
When I wake up at 1400 local time it is a few seconds when it is 0400 Hamburg time and I need to get to work.then reality sets in and thats what my friend vodka is there for


Oh hell Fubar confidence is what gets a chick.
remember Fubar you are hte man
you are the ,man
when u step out of your car, you are the mix of macguyver,that guy in the "take me on "video, and luke skywalker. repeat that to yourself


One could look like a blimp but with confidence he would score.
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« Reply #20 on: September 20, 2005, 11:19:25 PM »
Depression for most people is a combination of chemical changes in the brain, and destructive thought patterns. Meds alone help some people, counselling alone helps others -  but statistically speaking nothing works as well as the right medication combined with cognitive based counselling.

So what is cognitive counselling?  Start with each thought, especially the negative ones. Most of the time when we get depressed, there's a lot of negative messages we run through our heads. Most of those are distorted or unreasonable, and by challenging each one, testing it against reality (NOT some pollyanna everything is wonderful BS) -- you can start making some progress.

SO when the message plays in your head -- like "I screw up everything I touch" -- test it against reality. Have you done some things well? Then fight the thought with a reality counter attack, like "I can be pretty funny, and I do pretty well in math." Another common thing is to lose sight of the big stuff, the things that are important to you, and focus in on things that dont really matter that much. Troubel is, your body chemistry jsut sees the stress and self blame, and reacts accordingly.


For example, I jsut logged off in disgust thinking "I really stink at this game." I was frustrated, and felt that I hadnt improved at all despite all that time trying to learn. My gut was in a knot.

FIrst, in reality I HAVE improved tremendously (OK, thats because I was so inconcievably terribly bad at first that it was simply impossible to get worse -- but I digress.) I've just switched tracers off.  I was pressing out of frustration and did stupid stuff. I had a bad evening. I dont stink worse than a week old corpse with dead maggots. It jsut isnt true.

Second, who the heck cares? This is a game, and there are many things FAR more important to me. I cant let this small area of my life rule over my emotions. There's no way that I shoudl let little stuff, like what some jerk said or what the clueless clique of horde dweebs at school/work/whatever think.

But you get the idea. Fight the lies that habit and the disease play in your mind. Find a real counsellor who can help you see things that are hard to seee on your own. The emotions will follow.






And Fubar -- I gotta tell you, I respect you a lot. You're a kid (no offense -- I'm 43, so anything without grey is a kid to me    :) ), and like most kids there are times things go overboard.  But you've shown class that many grownups havent.

You probably dotn remember this, but about a year ago I was in your flight zone and we got jumped from behind. You were tail end in a group of 5-6 friendlies who were only loosely cooperating. You got nailed, and went semiballistic over the lack of check 6s. I said, hey, sorry, I was scanning the cons ahead -- I jsut didnt see it. I figured that was the end of a typical normal MA event.

But the next day, you looked me up and PM'd an apology that I didnt even think was required. That showed me character and class, and I've not seen anything since to change my mind. You're gunna be alright if you give yourself a chance, Fubie.
« Last Edit: September 20, 2005, 11:39:24 PM by Simaril »
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« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2005, 11:20:53 PM »
The physical fitness part of the equation is great advice.

Makes a huge diference. Go out and get one of those cheap Weider benches and some weights. Yeah, within a month (that's nothing) you're gonna feel a hundred times better.

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« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2005, 11:24:24 PM »
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Edit: Spade, I see you're reading this thread.  Give your bro any support you can to help.


He's on msn with me. :D

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« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2005, 11:30:10 PM »
And PS -- about the gf thing.

Dont buy in to the lie that you're life has to be like what you see on TV, or what every lying teen around you says their life is like. Be who you are, develop your strengths and work with (and accept) your weaknesses. Just get comfortable in your own skin.


Thats what will make you attractive to the kind of person you want to attract. (I'm speaking from experience here.) Also, in college the girls get better all around -- and they start to realize that geeks make pretty good providers.

You will not be happy with a companion who has a cranial vacuum, no matter what she looks like.

You dont need a GF to make yourself complete, and if you get one with that goal in mind you're gunna get an even worse disappointment before long.
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« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2005, 11:46:24 PM »
alcohol+chloroform= teh win
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« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2005, 11:53:10 PM »
one basic question... it can lead to many

What do you want out of life?

Make your goals, and follow through.

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« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2005, 11:55:05 PM »
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What do you want out of life?


Oh yeah... nothing like a critical self-evaluation to pull you out of a depression.

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« Reply #27 on: September 20, 2005, 11:57:30 PM »
:rofl

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« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2005, 12:06:00 AM »
Lack of sex may cause depression. Even too much of it.


I got it after I got out of the porn biz. hehe.:cry

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« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2005, 12:07:53 AM »
Have you  found jesus?

I didnt know i was supposted to be looking for him