Author Topic: Assessing the Terrorist Strategy in Iraq (Read 1998 times)

Godzilla · « **Reply #45 on:** September 28, 2005, 01:39:57 AM »

Iraq and Saddam got themselves into this "mess"

Nash · « **Reply #46 on:** September 28, 2005, 01:41:36 AM »

*smooch*

Hand me your glasses, blossom. I just gotta know what it feels like to be you.

Godzilla · « **Reply #47 on:** September 28, 2005, 01:43:27 AM »

Nash, you have a very limited understanding of, well, almost everything.

The US is not going to back out of Iraq.

Nash · « **Reply #48 on:** September 28, 2005, 01:59:53 AM »

Geeze Godzilla, that hurts. You're so abrasive.

Pretend that you are the White House's (liar) spokesman...

What's gonna be your excuse when it happens? Whattya gonna say?

I'm barely interested in that, actually. I'm fascinated by the paradigm shifts. Like when your Disneyland world pauses, reflects, and in a guilt-ridden act of shame and acceptance, decides to off itself. To call in markers from the surrounding black holes and get sucked out in a blaze of glory Pirates of the Caribbean theme park accident.

Fishu · « **Reply #49 on:** September 28, 2005, 02:00:45 AM »

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Originally posted by Godzilla
Iraq and Saddam got themselves into this "mess"

As I recall it was Bush who got Saddam messed up with the made up accusations of WMD, terrorist harbouring, yadda yadda yadda... making him look even worse for the world peace than Bin Laden.

Apparently alot of americans now agrees with it, that they were lied.

Hangtime · « **Reply #50 on:** September 28, 2005, 02:11:19 AM »

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Originally posted by Nash
Geeze Godzilla, that hurts. You're so abrasive.

Pretend that you are the White House's (liar) spokesman...

What's gonna be your excuse when it happens? Whattya gonna say?

I'm barely interested in that, actually. I'm fascinated by the paradigm shifts. Like when your Disneyland world pauses, reflects, and in a guilt-ridden act of shame and acceptance, decides to off itself. To call in markers from the surrounding black holes and get sucked out in a blaze of glory Pirates of the Caribbean theme park accident.

Must be a code or something...

Nash · « **Reply #51 on:** September 28, 2005, 02:15:47 AM »

Yeah...

Must be.

VOR · « **Reply #52 on:** September 28, 2005, 09:20:58 AM »

Ever tried a football bat?

Sandman · « **Reply #53 on:** September 28, 2005, 11:40:48 AM »

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Originally posted by Godzilla
Nash, you have a very limited understanding of, well, almost everything.

The US is not going to back out of Iraq.

Sure we will. We just won't do it as long as Bush is in office. I also doubt that someone will step up and make the Iraqi pullout a 2008 election issue, but you can be certain that it will come up in 2012.

Yes, I believe we'll still be there six years from now.

Wolfala · « **Reply #54 on:** September 28, 2005, 11:45:59 AM »

Not to bring up the obvious point but someone needs to mention it before I fall back asleep. None of us would be here if the pullout method ever worked - didn't for our parents, their parents before them, or any of the more entertaining citizens we see frequenting Jerry Springer.

Lazerus · « **Reply #55 on:** September 28, 2005, 09:04:34 PM »

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Originally posted by Fishu
As I recall it was Bush who got Saddam messed up with the made up accusations of WMD, terrorist harbouring, yadda yadda yadda... making him look even worse for the world peace than Bin Laden.

Apparently alot of americans now agrees with it, that they were lied.

You choose not to recall everything that has been published that proves that statement wrong. But hey, whatever floats your boat.

Lots of Americans believe that they were lied to, yes. Lots of Americans believe that Clinton was railroaded for having sex, that Hillary had nothing to do with 'misplaced' documents that turned up the day after the statute of limitations ran out on the crime she was accused of, that Presidential pardons handed out at the end of BC's term weren't linked to campaign contributions, and that the wisdom of the New Deal is only surpassed by the brilliance of LBJ's 'social reforms'. Funny thing is, they seem to always be the same people.

Shuckins · « **Reply #56 on:** September 28, 2005, 09:17:13 PM »

Sorry guys...getting back to this topic a little late. Been away on a business trip.

Remember Nash...always eschew obfuscation....or ya can't play with the big boys.

Fishu · « **Reply #57 on:** September 29, 2005, 02:48:41 AM »

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Originally posted by Lazerus
You choose not to recall everything that has been published that proves that statement wrong. But hey, whatever floats your boat.

I can also recall many published things taking back the previously published evidence.

It was well printed on the papers when shells buried into ground were found and apparently seemed to be leaking - gas, aka WMD, shells!
That was big news for couple of days, until they found out the shells were dug into the ground several years ago and the shells didn't have gas in them.

Do you mean that kind of proofs? Proofs printed on newspapers before something actually was proven?

Lazerus · « **Reply #58 on:** September 29, 2005, 03:50:36 AM »

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Originally posted by Fishu
As I recall it was Bush who got Saddam messed up with the made up accusations of WMD, terrorist harbouring, yadda yadda yadda... making him look even worse for the world peace than Bin Laden.

No, I mean your choice to form this fallacious opinion based on what you glean from the evidence available to the free world. But I won't try to argue my position. It is obvious that facts or logic will not sway your opinion. I just wanted to yet again make clear that no matter how many times those accusations are made, they will still be false. But you are free to form that opinion and express it as often as you choose, at least over here you are.

Fishu · « **Reply #59 on:** September 29, 2005, 04:42:05 AM »

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Originally posted by Lazerus
No, I mean your choice to form this fallacious opinion based on what you glean from the evidence available to the free world.

The free world of the united states provided their people with false evidence.
I do make a difference between evidence and falsified evidence.
Majority of americans back then chose to believe the falsified evidence, which were mainly used as a reason for the war.
Sure there was real evidence too, but the major reasons were mostly falsified. Bush also forgot the main priority, replacing it with an another.. Bin Laden who?
CIA was blamed for bad intelligence.

Exactly WHAT evidence do you mean that I should be following?
I have sort of lost your point.. really don't know what you're after for.
Theres been so much evidence that has afterwards found to be not true....
All this evidence, real and falsified, has been provided to the free world, along with the evidence that proved previous evidence wrong.