Author Topic: So I'm watching "Band of Brothers"... (Read 1358 times)

gofaster · « **on:** September 30, 2005, 05:18:09 PM »

... and I'm really wishing we'd get an American tank.

I think the M-24 Chafee, in combat in 1944 with various Allied armies, would be just fine and wouldn't disrupt gameplay.

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NA M-24 Chaffee Close Window

Light Tank

The M24 Chaffee Light Tank.

BASIC INFORMATION:
Designation: M-24 Chaffee
Manufacturer: NA
Country: United States
Service Date: 1944
Type: Light Tank
Crew: 5
DIMENSIONS:
Length: 16 feet, 6 inches
Width: 9 feet, 8 inches
Height: 8 feet, 1 inch
Weight: 40,500 lbs
PERFORMANCE STATISTICS:
Powerplant: 2 x Cadillac 44T24 V-8, 100 hp Gasoline Engines.
Max Speed: 35 mph
Max Range: 160 miles
ARMAMENT(S):
1 x 75mm main gun
2 x .30 caliber machine guns
1 x .50 caliber machine guns

HISTORY / NOTES:
The M24 Chaffee was a light tank used throughout 1944 into the 1970's. This was a light tank, employed by reconnaissance units. However, in the U.S. Army divisions in Japan before the Korea War, it was the only type of tank available and all of them were in what was supposed to be the divisional heavy tank battalions. Each division had about 15 to 17 M-24 tanks at the time.

However, if that is deemed inappopriate, then I wouldn't mind a Sherman.

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M-4A3E8

Nicknamed the "Easy Eight", over 4,500 M-4A3E8s were produced beginning in March 1944. The HVSS or horizontal volute spring suspension gave more shock absorption and allowed wider tracks and more mobility. The tank mounted the 76mm gun and had more steeply sloped frontal armor. The turret and gun mantlet were both larger. Earlier versions of the M-4A3 retained vision slots for the driver and co-driver, but later models like those shown here used periscopes. The M-4A3 used an 8 cylinder 500 horsepower radial aircraft engine.

Standard Armament: One 75mm - 105mm, One .50 cal AA, One .30 cal coaxial, One .30 cal hull
Traverse: 360° (36°/sec) powered
Elevation: +25° to -10°
Ammunition: 97, 300, 4750

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BigR · « **Reply #1 on:** September 30, 2005, 07:15:25 PM »

youre a brave man. Im surprised all the naz....err Germanfiles havnt started slapping you silly yet for such an outlandish request. How dare you add an American tank when there are so many more German tanks to add?!! Doing so would prove that HTC is Biased towards American vehicles!

Of course its a good idea...it wouldnt last long agasint the Panzer and T34, but it would add some more variety to the game. I dont think GVs are high on their list at the moment tho..but then again..Ive been known to be wrong...from time to time.

Panzzer · « **Reply #2 on:** September 30, 2005, 07:55:35 PM »

Oh.. Second time tonight, but here goes another Shermie-thread.

M4 Sherman - Feel the love tonight! (as sung by Arlo?) linkage

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #3 on:** September 30, 2005, 07:56:21 PM »

If no to a Sherman then how about a Pershing?

I love that old war footage of a Pershing stalking a Tiger II and killing it.

ack-ack

RedDg · « **Reply #4 on:** September 30, 2005, 08:10:21 PM »

Bodhi · « **Reply #5 on:** September 30, 2005, 09:56:01 PM »

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Originally posted by RedDg

pathetic... photshop it and remove pony and put in a sherman with a pic....

Howitzer · « **Reply #6 on:** September 30, 2005, 10:11:56 PM »

I suppose I've commented on this before, but in case I haven't, I'll do it now. History obviously has its place in all of our hearts, but I just don't see adding a GV to the game that will just get pwned by anything but an M8 for history's sake. If it were a pershing or something else that could stand up 1 on 1 with the german armor, I'd be fine with it. But the simple fact that the American advantage of simply producing more tanks than the Germans does not apply to the gameplay we see here, so it is mostly irrelevant and makes for lopsided fights.

Just my thoughts...

Booz · « **Reply #7 on:** September 30, 2005, 10:57:03 PM »

Think perks...

What fun to brew a tiger from 6. No one's gonna force you to drive it. So, nod and be on your way.

Q: Why do you fly a P40 booz?
A: Cause I can.

get it yet?

*hic*

Howitzer · « **Reply #8 on:** September 30, 2005, 11:04:19 PM »

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Originally posted by Booz
Think perks...

What fun to brew a tiger from 6. No one's gonna force you to drive it. So, nod and be on your way.

Q: Why do you fly a P40 booz?
A: Cause I can.

get it yet?

*hic*

I have no clue what you are trying to tell me with this... Do I need a decoder ring or something?

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #9 on:** September 30, 2005, 11:09:00 PM »

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Originally posted by TW9
do u have that on your pc or know a link to the footage by chance?

Only seen the footage on History Channel when they rerun the Modern Marvels show on US tanks in WW2. But there is a site out there that has additional pictures taken by a partisan that show in a series of photos the kill from the Pershing on the Tiger II and the bail out of the crew. For the life of me, I can't remember where I found the link.

*edit* Here is a link that tells the story.

Duel at Dessau

ack-ack

Fencer51 · « **Reply #10 on:** September 30, 2005, 11:17:57 PM »

Actually its a Panther that gets stalked. The combat film crew is with the Pershing's unit as they enter Cologne (I think). They are moving in on the center of the city and the Panther takes out a Sherman. I believe they show the crew bailing out and one of them does not have his legs anymore. The camera crew works its way forward enters a building and from the second story finds the Panther nosing around a corner. At about the same time the Pershing finds the Panther. The 90mm on the Pershing hits the Panther and the crew starts bailing, then another round hits. I think the show it was on was the Modern Marvels Sherman Tank edition.

Cheers.
Edit: Found a couple links

http://home.earthlink.net/~crcorbin/ColognePictures.html

Bate's Cologne Film

jaxxo · « **Reply #11 on:** September 30, 2005, 11:50:09 PM »

advantage of simply producing more tanks than the Germans does not apply to the gameplay we see here

hehehe.cuz we all know that numbers mean nothing in ah

Grits · « **Reply #12 on:** September 30, 2005, 11:58:29 PM »

Shemans were so overmatched that their loss rate was 250%. Meaning EACH Sherman averaged being knocked out, and being put back into action 2.5 times.

Wolfala · « **Reply #13 on:** October 01, 2005, 01:24:53 AM »

U want the Sherman challenge - take the M8 out for a spin. I love doing it - b/c once in awhile you catch a Panzer with its wang in his zipper.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #14 on:** October 01, 2005, 01:55:44 AM »

Sherman was a very good design when it came out in 1942 - certainly up there with the T34 of the day and arguably better than the short low velocity 75mm armed pz4.

It became a very bad design when they didnt update it's damn gun for over 2 years - and even at that point (summer 1944) most of the AP ammo given to sherman crews wasnt too good.

In the mean time the Pz4 got 2 high velocity 75mm gun upgrades and several armor upgrades, as did the Stugs. Oh, and during the same period and the germans also intruced some tanks called Tiger 1 (1942) and Panther (1943).

Pershing came along in 45 but only 200 were used in the war staring in march 45, so compared to 50,000 shermans and countless 10s of thousands of other US and allied tanks (not even countingthe russians) it was ridiculously rare. Even the kingtiger of which only 475 were produced was much more common, even if you just look at absolute numbers and more so if you look at relative numbers of % of total tank forces.

Basically it only makes sense to have sherman as the 1st USA tank.