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Offline Gunslinger

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« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2005, 10:21:40 PM »
Screw everyone else and listen to me.  


Get 3 other good sized male students and one decently F'able female.  1 burlap sack, 3 rolls of duct tape, one lead pipe, an army field surgans kit, a 12 volt lead acid car battery, alligator clips, possibly a potentiometer, a dozen oranges, and a case of regulare coke/pepsi.


kidnap him and beat the crap out of him using the burlap sack and the lead pipe.  let him recover for a few days then tape him to a chair and start the "shock treatment".  Ask him questions for a few days and shock him with the car battery when you don't beleive him.  Testicles work the best.  Once this phase is complete surgically remove all of his toe nails, then when he does not want to see reason threaton to surgically re-attach them.  Once this phase is complete we move into the brain stinging.  Every time he tries to act pompous or better than you bend his chair back and take a shaken up coke can and open it right under his nose so that most of the carbonation and acid go up his nasal passage.  Next we sting.  This requires very small very precise cuts from surgical scalpals.  Cut him all over as much as possible creating almost paperlike cuts.  Then procede to peel the oranges over said cuts.  When done peeling explain to him the nice cleaning capacity of orange acids.  

This should take about a month and require sleep deprivation and much bad music to deny proper sleep.  Follow the steps I've outlined and he should be "re-educated" in proper teaching within a month.

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Offline Hangtime

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« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2005, 10:37:53 PM »
dude.. that's so wrong.

I can accomplish the same results with a soldering iron and a pair of vise grips in under an hour.

After all, the guys just a liberal college prof.
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« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2005, 10:38:47 PM »
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Originally posted by Hangtime
dude.. that's so wrong.

I can accomplish the same results with a soldering iron and a pair of vise grips in under an hour.

After all, the guys just a liberal college prof.


F' me I forgot about burning and pressure.  I'm drinking tonite so my brain at at 100%

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« Reply #18 on: October 01, 2005, 06:09:14 AM »
Russian,

I didn't say anything about the relative value and/or ages between you and the professor.  I merely pointed out, and gave some reasoning, that even the most retarded or insulting professor needs to be treated as nothing more than a means to an end.  If the only thing you learn from him is how to endure an otherwise intolerable situation, then you've learned something.  But get the grade.

I had a teacher for 2 separate classes.  He was the assistant head of the electrical engineering department.  He couldn't teach his way out of a porta-potty.  Every time there were 2 sections of a class with him teaching one and another professor teaching the other, the other class ALWAYS had a B average and his ALWAYS had a C or C- average.  I knew he sucked and I knew going in that I wouldn't learn crap in his class, but I didn't treat him as the means to an end, and I let him fail to teach me.  Looking back, what I needed to do was study with students from the other section.  Instead, I let this one crappy teacher bring me down and I got a C in one of his classes and a D in another, dropping me off of the deans list.

Here's another analogy...  Imagine your house sits on a little hill, and has some stairs you have to climb every day to get home.  After a while, you really hate those stairs.  But what are you really going to do about it?  You could spend a lot of effort having the stairs removed and replaced with something "better", maybe a winding footpath, but you'll spend a lot of time and effort that maybe you could spend elsewhere, like painting the house instead.  Or you could just not climb the stairs, but then you'd have to live on the street.  Or you could sell the house, but that would put your life on hold and moving sucks.  Or you can just grit your teeth and keep climbing the stairs until it's in your best interest to make a change, and in the meantime climbing the stairs will make you stronger.

So...  You can put a lot of effort into trying to sack the professor or otherwise fight him, you can effectively boycott him by dropping the class or quitting entirely, you could simply stop going to class and take the F, you could change schools, or you could suck it up and do whatever you can to get the grade and get past this obstacle.

It has nothing to do with age or skills as a teacher, it has to do with the fact that unless you want to be an academic or a teacher yourself, school is just some place you have to go to before you go somewhere else, and after you leave nobody cares about anything that happened there except what grades you got and whether you learned anything.  One class...  It won't make a huge difference on how much you learn, but it can really hurt your transcript if you get a bad grade.

A side effect of fighting the teacher instead of using him to your advantage, is that it leads to a habit of blaming others for your problems.  Yes the teacher is a problem, but you need to deal with it in a way that is to YOUR advantage.  Merely accepting failure and blaming the teacher is not going to do anything but start you on the path to being a lifelong victim.
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« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2005, 08:53:44 AM »
Well, I dunno, eagl's part right and part wrong -- or rather I'd synthesize his statement a little differently.
A major part of one's university training is dealing with bureaucracies. University bureaucracies are the opposite of Military ones in some respects; primarily, the hierarchy is there, but it's effaced by a chaotic notion of collegiality, and the encouragement for holding different opinions.
So a university may be a "means to an end", but chances are, so will your post-university career. And you'll have to deal with idiots in a position of power over you.

Anyway, approaching the problem with the attitude "It's too late for us, but we don't want others to have to endure him" will probably get you the best results. Plus it'll really piss him off.

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« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2005, 09:03:28 AM »
just curious... how would a prof know anything about life or the real world in any case?

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« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2005, 09:10:58 AM »
There's hardly ever justice in real life. You'll be a frustrated, angry individual if you always look for it. If the guy is a real nut and the kind that "never gives A's" just drop the class and take it from someone more sane. If you don't run into a wacky teacher in your college career, you are indeed lucky.

I had a systems analysis teacher that was on mars. Unfortunately he was the only systems analysis teacher. I'm very proud of that "C" :D
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« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2005, 09:57:10 AM »
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There's hardly ever justice in real life. You'll be a frustrated, angry individual if you always look for it. If the guy is a real nut and the kind that "never gives A's" just drop the class and take it from someone more sane. If you don't run into a wacky teacher in your college career, you are indeed lucky.


Pretty much dead on.

If you want to get to him, show him a picture of a really pretty girl, tell him it's your girlfriend and she is a fantastic lay, then walk away.

That will piss him off.

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« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2005, 04:32:25 PM »
Fairfeild, Ca. are you  uc-davis?  does angela davis still teach there? she knows what to do with those kinda of people. (those in a postion of authority)

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« Reply #24 on: October 01, 2005, 04:40:28 PM »
As Eagl says, it's a check in the box.

Get in. Get out. Get done.
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« Reply #25 on: October 01, 2005, 07:38:50 PM »
my 1.5 cents


I had a crazy prettythang lib. prof in college.  This  mofo was mean as heck for the 1st,  2 weeks, Droping "F" bombs and every other kinda bomb you could imagine!  He was pick out a non white angalo,  and goto town on them (he was being sarcastic come to find out later)

Now all the upper class men told me "Take his class, if you dont learn anything, you couldnt buy and better entertainment for a million dollars"

i was so blown out of the water by this guy, Everything you said was wrong, your an F-in idiot, a F-Cracker white breed A-hole .....it didnt matter to him , he would ruin anyone.....(i allways tried to look innocent so he wouldnt pick me for the day but he got everyone eventually).....Sure lots of people walked out of the room pissy and mad,   the point wasnt to upset you, the point was to show you!   thats what a REAL TEACHER does..... anyone can read a text book, and most teacher  teach right out of those pages,..............but what is said in the class room is what you need too know.(if they are a good teacher).


Like i  said once you got past the 1st few weeks it was all good and understood!   he did it still but never to the extent + explained to the class that it wasnt you personally he was talking too but the idea, aswell as the predjudgous' that people make.


This guy was a humanities teacher.   rarely did he teach us about what we were tested on that was in the book, (that i never read) what he taught us was more about life and the critical thinking most never even think about


That SOB  held office hours at a bar every friday from 4-8, the college was Michigan State U.   guys name Dr. V. Martin (the V. was for Vwadik).    I guess if you were the bellybutton kisser type you would have gone to every friday office hours at the bar, i went a few times but not all,   i think thats the only reason he passes me.  

Off all the classes i took in my 5 yrs in college THIS IS THE ONLY CLASS I NEVER MISSED A DAY!   why ?   my friends were right i learned alot, did i pass the class barely with a 2.5 but hey it was worth its weight in gold +!


imo   prof's like that are the best ones to have.
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« Reply #26 on: October 01, 2005, 11:19:16 PM »
Upon reading this board, I realize that maybe the automatic weapon and half a dozen waterfowl aren't so bad after all.

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« Reply #27 on: October 02, 2005, 11:47:33 PM »
Will reply tomorrow...it's too late for today.

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« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2005, 02:31:10 PM »
During Monday’s class, we had a revelation. Before the class started, I shared my views to class, mainly same options as discussed on this board. I particularly touched a part that it might be as my friend put it – ‘a genius playing an idiot’. I somewhat managed to cool the class down to allow more time to gather more evidence. There is no need to rush forward with a red banner and die needlessly. But once class started, the professor was like someone else. He was not disrespectful us. He actually listened to class and included our ideas into his discussion/lecture. It actually started my day as a pleasant experience, not a torture as before. In the end of a class, I approached teacher and told him – ‘thank you for valuing our opinions and respecting us’ I think that was a bit shocking to him and he apologetically replied that future classes will not be as before. I didn’t dig to the reasons behind his past behavior; even professional teachers get bad days.
Anyhow, it seems this was a false alarm. Thank you, AH community, for your views on this issue. It helped a lot to build various choices.  

Dinger,
Some good ideas you have there. Thanks.


Eagl,
I appreciate different views, thank you for that. You might want to think about this quote though “You’ve got to stand for something or you’ll fall for anything.”

JTs,
Negative, this is not in US-Davis.

Boxboy28,

It will be helpful if you actually read an entire thread before replying.

AdmRose, Gunslinger and Hangtime

Good stuff, thanks.

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« Reply #29 on: October 04, 2005, 05:16:49 PM »
Russian i did read it,   and you did the right thing!  WTG all i was trying to say is approach him civilly like you did.   with the whole class behind you its good.   I was just telling of my experiance with a prof of the same nature.......course at the Office hours he was a great funny guy to spend time with.  


But thanks none the less for miss reading what i said.
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