Author Topic: Request for specific beefs with Hillary Clinton (Read 1742 times)

Charon · « **Reply #15 on:** October 03, 2005, 07:06:19 PM »

I don't much like her politics. She'd probably be a better leader than her husband, but in the wrong direction.

You never know though. Billy wasn't all that liberal when push came to shove (something that slipped by most of his supporters and opponents alike), and his get tough on crime/war on drugs presidency saw a deterioration of rights as bad as anything Bush/Ashcroft did -- so far.

2nd amendment is clear.

Charon

crowMAW · « **Reply #16 on:** October 03, 2005, 07:27:29 PM »

Just curious...what is the basis for saying she is a "red" socialist? Specifics please...

Note: at this time I really don't have an opinion of her one way or another, but I don't think she is electable.

Shifty · « **Reply #17 on:** October 03, 2005, 07:27:54 PM »

What has she accomplished in life other than riding on her husbands coat tails? I seriously cannot figure out why so many say she is the most inteligent woman ever. She's really done nothing her whole life, yet she attracts a huge following.

Instead of asking why people don't like her , maybe ask why people do and for what reasons.

Dago · « **Reply #18 on:** October 03, 2005, 10:22:34 PM »

There are several books out about her, and none of them complimentary at least that I am familiar with, and another one coming out that exposes more of the true Hillary.

My opinion, she is a scheming opportunist who sways with the political wind, not really having or displaying any real convictions, just saying what she thinks a crowd wants to hear. I suspects she treats her "underlings" like so much dirt, while smiling on the camera.

Travelgate was an early illustration of her method of treating people.

dago

midnight Target · « **Reply #19 on:** October 03, 2005, 10:30:30 PM »

Lots of opinion, not a lot of facts. It was a valiant effort though Chair.

I'm curious though. National health care has been an objective of every President since at least Nixon. In fact Nioxon wanted to make it a cornerstone of his second term... only his crooked ways kinda put the snafu on that.
So what did Hillary do regarding National health care that frosted everyones cookies?

Dago · « **Reply #20 on:** October 03, 2005, 10:34:21 PM »

Books about Hillary:

Hell to Pay: The Unfolding Story of Hillary Rodham Clinton

American Evita : Hillary Clinton's Path to Power

Rewriting History

The Case Against Hillary Clinton

Hillary's Scheme : Inside the Next Clinton's Ruthless Agenda to Take the White House

Madame Hillary : The Dark Road to the White House

Here is a surprise, they all describe an evil, scheming, lieing person.

Nash · « **Reply #21 on:** October 03, 2005, 10:35:03 PM »

Big suprise but I don't have anything against Hillary. I think she'd make as good a President as anyone else.

I guess my problem is that, of a population of 300 million, there must be better.

The fact that she's in the running speaks less about her than it does of a political process that would make her a contender.

Debonair · « **Reply #22 on:** October 03, 2005, 10:39:19 PM »

Will the MPs zap me if i say "small breasts"?

Dago · « **Reply #23 on:** October 03, 2005, 10:39:24 PM »

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Originally posted by Nash
Big suprise but I don't have anything against Hillary. I think she'd make as good a President as anyone else.

I guess my problem is that, of a population of 300 million, there must be better.

The fact that she's in the running speaks less about her than it does of a political process that would make her a contender.

And that illustrates our dilemma, the really good people normally wont run. Those who do run for President aren't normally anyone you would really want to vote for. An example is our very last presidential election.

dago

Toad · « **Reply #24 on:** October 03, 2005, 10:45:12 PM »

Opinions?

I don't think so.

She is against any Social Security that puts funds specifically in the name of the taxpayer.

She is not by any means a true supporter of the 2nd Amendment.

She's against school vouchers.

She has voted against tax cuts consistently.

Her health care plan was pretty much a big HMO setup with restricted choice compared to many plans.

But it was a valiant effort to marginalize all oppostion posters.

Nash · « **Reply #25 on:** October 03, 2005, 10:51:30 PM »

Toad - the Repubs dug that health care plan. They fought against it because they were warned that if it were passed, it'd be years before a Republican was again elected President.

Sandman · « **Reply #26 on:** October 03, 2005, 10:54:56 PM »

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Originally posted by Debonair
Will the MPs zap me if i say "small breasts"?

Go ahead and try it and see.

Dago · « **Reply #27 on:** October 03, 2005, 10:55:27 PM »

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Originally posted by Nash
Toad - the Repubs dug that health care plan. They fought against it because they were warned that if it were passed, it'd be years before a Republican was again elected President.

And your prove of this is?

Nash · « **Reply #28 on:** October 03, 2005, 10:58:34 PM »

Proof? Before I go dig it back up, please let me know that it'd even make a difference to you.

Toad · « **Reply #29 on:** October 03, 2005, 11:06:50 PM »

I really haven't seen any proof that the "Republicans" dug that plan, which is immaterial.

The point is I didn't dig that health care plan.

I had my time in an HMO. No thanks, I'll pass.