Great conversation, thanks for the tips! Despite the efforts of cranks like Gunthr (seriously dude, I was asking without an agenda, not that you're gonna believe me) I think there have been some really good points here.
I can see a lot of reasons people disagree with her, and maybe even dislike her. I still don't have a real grasp for some of the froth I've seen here, but maybe it's just my imagination.
Hope this thread has been of use to y'all as well!