La-7 vs P-51 fought in r/l?

[ATA]

Originally posted by Boroda

One of the P-51 pilots survived and landed into Soviet zone, he was a huge black man, and said that they were shot down by "red-nosed 190s". They probably had no chance to see Red stars on wings...

Black?I never knew  there were black pilots in ww2.

[JimBear]

^ Your Kidding, right?

[ATA]

No,honestly.i had no idea

[ATA]

That was his

[Guppy35]

Originally posted by Boroda
http://forum.sukhoi.ru/showthread.php?t=30333

3 Yaks lost, two pilots killed (one of them was shot down by Soviet AAA). 5 P-38s shot down according to ground observations.

Conclusion is interesting: P-38 has a serious advantage in horisontal maneuvers, Yak-9 is better in vertical.

82nd FG History lists 3 38s down.

P38L-1 #44-24035
Pilot Lt. Phillip Brewer (95th FS) KIA

P38J-15 #43-28062
Pilot Lt. Eldon Coulson (95th FS) KIA

P38L-1 #44-24392
Pilot Capt. Charles King (96th FS) Evader

[Tilt]

Originally posted by Boroda
We have arranged a meeting with Fedor Fedorovich Arhipenko, 44 kills. Interesting man,

27 IAP later 129 GIAP flying P39's as well as FF Arkhipenko (30 personal kills 14 "fractional") it featured Gulayev with 57 (full)victories 3rd highest Allied ace.

Mystery to me is what aircraft they flew before being equiped with the P39's

[Clifra Jones]

Originally posted by ATA
No,honestly.i had no idea

http://tuskegeeairmen.org/MainFrameset.htm

In April 1944, the 332nd Fighter Group transferred to the Adriatic Sea side at Ramitelli Air Strip, near Foggia, Italy and began conducting long-range heavy bomber escort missions for the 15th Strategic Air Force. In July 1944, the 99th Fighter Squadron was transferred to Ramitelli and the Group became the only four-squadron fighter group performing bomber escort missions in the 15th Air Force. This was a significant factor in the effectiveness and success of the Group as it established the incredible and unprecedented record of flying all of its bomber escort missions (200 over most of central and southern Europe) without the loss of a single bomber to enemy aircraft.
 
   
The 99th Fighter Squadron received two Presidential Unit Citations (June-July 1943 and May 1944) for outstanding tactical air support and aerial combat in the 12th Air Force before joining the 332nd Fighter Group. The 332nd Fighter Group received the Presidential Unit Citation for its longest bomber escort mission to Berlin, Germany, March 24, 1945. They destroyed three German ME-262 jet fighters and damaged five additional jet fighters without losing any of the bombers or any of its own fighter aircraft to enemy aircraft.

[Boroda]

Originally posted by Tilt
27 IAP later 129 GIAP flying P39's as well as FF Arkhipenko (30 personal kills 14 "fractional") it featured Gulayev with 57 (full)victories 3rd highest Allied ace.

Mystery to me is what aircraft they flew before being equiped with the P39's

Fedor Fedorovich mentioned Yak-1s. We met him in summer 2003 IIRC, the problem is that we got drunk after the meeting and Flying Barans lost the digital video camera with a tape (I told them to watch the bag with camera before I left, they took it to the cab repeating "Boroda told us not to leave it here" and then forgot it in a cab ) There must be another analog tape, but I don't know the guy who had it. Anyway, we supposed to talk for 2 hours, and didn't have enough tapes for five hours...

We followed his advise too close: when he left us he said: "OK, guards (gvardeytsy), remember this rule: 100 is not enough, 200 is too much, let it be 150, but three times!"... I calculated an amount of vodka we had that evening, it was exactly 450ml per face...

Fedor Fedorovich was in a great shape, at that time he was still working for some construction company, he only was a little sad because doctors don't let him smoke and drink any more...

[AmRaaM]

best mistaken id is when a flight of japanese navy attack a/c tried landing on a us carrier, like 15 of the 18 were shot down by AA.

[Tilt]

Czech (slovak) Incident 7 October 44


32 P51's of  52nd Fighter group escorting 6 B17G to Tri Duby attacked 4  La5FN's and slightly damaged one flown by Sub Lieutenant Frantisek Sticka.  Mistook them for FW's

Tri Duby was the main Slovak Partizan air base where the La5FN's  based them selves.

The B17's were en route to collect rescued US airmen.

[Tilt]

Originally posted by Boroda
Fedor Fedorovich mentioned Yak-1s. We met him in summer 2003 IIRC,

Thanks....... in summer 2003 he was 81 years old (82 in October)

[ATA]

What the hell is up with USAF always atacking allies?

[Bruno]

What the hell is up with USAF always atacking allies?

Why don't you  take the time to research friendly fire incidents in WW2 before asking ignorant questions.

This is not something unique to the USAAF.

[Squire]

Friendly fire incidents were widespread in WW2 amongst all the combatants. In those days, newspapers and reporters were highly censored, and any stories of such incidents were ruthlessley quashed.

Sometimes the "blue on blue" was with an allied country. It was not uncommon. The only measure against it was the Mk.I eyeball, and good recognition skills.

There is a famous account in the early days of the BoB of the RAF having a clash between Hurricanes and Spitfires.

[Debonair]

The Battle of Barking Creek