Author Topic: Unperk the Ta 152 ! (Read 2176 times)

Suave · « **Reply #45 on:** October 16, 2005, 11:42:55 AM »

Only 16 ta152's were operational during the war, and jg301 only flew 66 ta152 sorites. We're fortunate that it's modeled in AH high period.

Now how many spit mkxiv were operational?

Krusty · « **Reply #46 on:** October 16, 2005, 12:48:40 PM »

66 sorties, maybe, but they got kills. There are a couple of tales of 152s fighting tempests late in the war. One account was told by one of the pilots.. A flight of 3 152s were heading low to engage some tempests that were attacking something (trains? Front lines? I can't remember what). They saw the tempests and promptly one of the 152s plowed into the ground (pilot error? Malfunction, the pilot telling the tale didn't know). They got into a fight and the pilot that was telling the tale explained that he got into a turn fight with one of them and was out turning it. He was firing his guns then they all stopped (out fo ammo? Probably a G-related jam IMO). He kept turning waiting for something to happen, and it did. The Tempest couldn't turn with the 152.. It's wing dipped and the pilot couldn't recover because they were already barely above trees as it was. The tempest pilot died.

April 24 1945, Walter Loos ran into a group of VVS fighters over Berlin -- my guess is that at this time of the war they were late Yak9s or LA7s -- and shot down 2 of them.

It was rare, sure, but they were in full production and if the war had ended 6 months later they'd have replaced most of the doras, I bet.

I know this is a fun "what if" plane for AH. But it still falls within the guidelines that HTC set up for "allowed planes"

(*whisper* I just wish it performed like the monster it was supposed to be! */whisper*)

Lye-El · « **Reply #47 on:** October 16, 2005, 01:01:50 PM »

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Originally posted by Schatzi
There you go

I wonder how many others you got with that. Now THAT is funny.

I think I'll leave it.

Noir · « **Reply #48 on:** October 16, 2005, 01:25:18 PM »

Ta 152 in AH2 barely flies straight....it does flat turns even at high speed, its very sluggish and nose bounces to hell.....sometimes I check my tail to make sure its still there....

Wilbus · « **Reply #49 on:** October 16, 2005, 02:50:47 PM »

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Originally posted by Schatzi
There you go

LOL yup that was kind of funny

Krusty · « **Reply #50 on:** October 16, 2005, 02:57:19 PM »

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Originally posted by Schatzi
There you go

While we would all be better off clicking this link as an entire community, I do not like it when people mess with my ignore list. It's the principle of the thing. No I didn't click it (I read the link first). I might, but when I do I want it to be my choice.

Wilbus · « **Reply #51 on:** October 16, 2005, 03:19:23 PM »

Well I removed it but I liked the humor with it

Morpheus · « **Reply #52 on:** October 16, 2005, 03:23:38 PM »

This argument is nothing new. http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=152015 Personaly Im glad its down in its perk price.

Even still, its like paying for a bag of rocks which came out of your back yard.

megadud · « **Reply #53 on:** October 16, 2005, 03:29:07 PM »

how do i unignore people? dam you schatzi!

was funny though

Nomak · « **Reply #54 on:** October 16, 2005, 03:35:45 PM »

I found the 152 to be quite capeable in AH 1. I know that I have read on the board somewhere that there wasnt a flight model change with the FW series from AH1 to AH2 but I just find that real hard to believe.

In AH 1 I could really make the 152 dance once it was low fuel. The Medium/Low speed handling was good enough that I wouldnt even think twice about turn/angles fighting a p51/p47/p38 etc.... I wouldnt even consider it in AH II.

Its a bummer for me because I use to fly it fairly often..... I never fly it now.

Dave

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #55 on:** October 16, 2005, 08:12:10 PM »

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IIRC, HTs own words, 'Rare fighters should be kept rare'.

No, you do not recall correctly.

Perks are based only upon usage and effect on the Main Arena.

For example the Usage, the Spit 14, F4u4 and Ta152 all dropped in price due to lack of usage, not lack of power.

For example, the effect. The F4u1c was perked because it was too powerful. It was also being overly used.

For example, the 3 Gun La7 is NOT perked. I do believe there were no more then 10 of these in the entire war. It is a rare plane, but is overly used in the MA. It is not perked.

TW9 · « **Reply #56 on:** October 16, 2005, 08:31:50 PM »

Ah so that what the little midget was mumbling about.. He wanted "da plane da plane" perked...

Krusty · « **Reply #57 on:** October 16, 2005, 08:37:00 PM »

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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Perks are based only upon usage and effect on the Main Arena.

WRONG!

Perks are ALSO a basis for keeping planes rare and limited. Perk status can be given to planes that were rare in numbers (Ta152) and beccause of performance dominace (spit14, f4u4, f4u1c). It's not ONLY because of the latter. The 262 and 163 aren't perked because of performance, I tellyawhut.

The actual performance of the planes can help HTC change the perk PRICE, but the perk status itself can be bestowed upon rare craft for that reason alone.

lasersailor184 · « **Reply #58 on:** October 16, 2005, 09:06:47 PM »

Krusty, I will do it if I have to.

I will quote myself in something that has already been posted that already proves you wrong.

I suggest you go read over it again.

Krusty · « **Reply #59 on:** October 16, 2005, 09:46:03 PM »

I'm sorry lasersailor, but I'm confident you're wrong on this one. There is a difference between "perk points" and "perk status". Planes can have "perk status" for any of 2 reasons. Rarity or uberness. Perk POINTS, on the other hand, are dictated solely by the MA.