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Offline gatt

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« Reply #30 on: October 25, 2005, 02:21:16 AM »
*Beautiful* model and skin! WTG HTC!
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« Reply #31 on: October 25, 2005, 04:36:56 AM »
Looks wonderful    good job guys   more British planes the better....



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« Reply #32 on: October 25, 2005, 06:17:39 AM »
For all us newbies ^^^^^^^^^ lol , what number is this ?



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« Reply #33 on: October 25, 2005, 01:24:07 PM »
The Mk. 16E... Anywho, it looks intersting, a Mk9 with clipped wings, new rudder, packard engine and .50 cals with 20mm... Sounds good to me! :-)

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PS do wish it had the tear drop cockpit! ::Sniffles::

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« Reply #34 on: October 25, 2005, 05:37:19 PM »
OK let's  clarify for everyone what you are looking at with the Spit LFXVIe

It's the same fuselage, wing, armament of the late war LFIXe but has the American built Packard Merlin 266 instead of the Rolls Royce Merlin 66 of the LFIXe.

First image is of the actual Spit 16 that the AH Spit is skinned as.  It's Spitfire LFXVIe TB476 21-D of 443 "Hornet" squadron RCAF, flown by S/L  Art Sager in April 1945.

Clipped E wing, tall broad chord rudder, fixed tail wheel, wing racks along with a centerline hard point for bomb or drop tank.


Second image is of a Spitfire LFIXe PT961 that flew with 126 squadron in combat after this production photo was taken.

Note the clipped E wing, fixed tail wheel, bomb racks on the wing etc.  All the same as the LFXVIe except this bird has the earlier rudder version.


Hah! Its not the same!  The rudder is different!  But hold on a sec.  The late build IXes also could have that tail too as the image below clearly shows.  These are a bit more rare as they are HFIXes of 124 squadron, but note they all have the same rudder as the image of the LFXVIe. ON-B is serial PV303 in case the serial number junkies want to double check that it's an IX with a tall tail.


And just for fun, here's a clipped LFVIII with the Universal wing and retractable tail wheel, short span ailerons and Merlin 66


And last but not least, my favorite Spit, the XII that had that tall tail and clipped wing, way back in February of 43 when 41 Squadron began to convert to them.
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« Reply #35 on: October 25, 2005, 07:22:48 PM »
It's no Hurricane, but that's one damned fine looking aircraft.
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« Reply #36 on: October 26, 2005, 12:08:18 AM »
"Hah! Its not the same! The rudder is different! But hold on a sec. The late build IXes also could have that tail too as the image below clearly shows."

Guppy, you have been warned about confusing the children.

Stop that  ;)
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« Reply #37 on: October 26, 2005, 12:26:45 AM »
heh


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« Reply #38 on: October 26, 2005, 12:26:58 AM »
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Originally posted by Squire
"Hah! Its not the same! The rudder is different! But hold on a sec. The late build IXes also could have that tail too as the image below clearly shows."

Guppy, you have been warned about confusing the children.

Stop that  ;)


I could really mess em up and point out that the XII has the early style elevators of the Spit I-V too!  Heaven forbid a tall tail on an early tailplane that has retractable tail wheel!  Then there is the photo out there of the Spit V trop with the pointed rudder as well.  Will it never end! :)

Stop that Ramzey!  High back XVI's look better! :)
« Last Edit: October 26, 2005, 12:30:20 AM by Guppy35 »
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« Reply #39 on: October 26, 2005, 11:26:49 AM »
So guys, whats the deal with this "broad chord rudder" it look pukka, but why was it installed in the 1st place ? :confused: & the whole , "what plane looks better Supermaine Spitfire or American P51 Mustang " has just been totaly decided now that I have seen the pics of the new Mk 16, with the brod chord rudder & the cliped wings, dam, that is one fine looking plane, BTW Thanks for sharing them guppy. :O Also are they going the use the 150 octain fuel in the Mk16 that I have read so much about in the other posts :D

P.S My final view, why are they using an American Packard engine, now I know how you guys must fill with A British Merlin in your P51D. :cry



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« Reply #40 on: October 26, 2005, 12:10:30 PM »
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Originally posted by Guppy35
OK let's  clarify for everyone what you are looking at with the Spit LFXVIe

Second image is of a Spitfire LFIXe PT961 that flew with 126 squadron in combat after this production photo was taken.

Note the clipped E wing, fixed tail wheel, bomb racks on the wing etc.  All the same as the LFXVIe except this bird has the earlier rudder version.


Hah! Its not the same!  The rudder is different!  [/img]


Also features distinctive large vegetable mounted on vertical stick forward of rudder, which aids identification.

Hitech haven't modelled this.

:)
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Re: My Views
« Reply #41 on: October 26, 2005, 12:46:49 PM »
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So guys, whats the deal with this "broad chord rudder" it look pukka, but why was it installed in the 1st place ? :confused: & the whole , "what plane looks better Supermaine Spitfire or American P51 Mustang " has just been totaly decided now that I have seen the pics of the new Mk 16, with the brod chord rudder & the cliped wings, dam, that is one fine looking plane, BTW Thanks for sharing them guppy. :O Also are they going the use the 150 octain fuel in the Mk16 that I have read so much about in the other posts :D

P.S My final view, why are they using an American Packard engine, now I know how you guys must fill with A British Merlin in your P51D. :cry


Hate to break it to ya but that was an American made Packard Merlin in the Mustang too :)

Broad chord rudder on the Spit was added to take the increase in horsepower and torque of the later Merlins and Griffons.

Not a lot different then the fuselage being lengthened on the P40 or 190D9.
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« Reply #42 on: October 26, 2005, 01:01:20 PM »
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My new ride is here :O

Wonder what Kev's thoughts are on the perking???  ;)


Kev this thing will turn like a hurri 1, climb like a 163, outrun the Tempest, and outgun anything right??


LOL


LOLOL, hardly.

Turn slightly worse than the current IX, roll better than it.
Climb better to 20k than current IX after which the current IX is better.
Still sub 400mph at all alts, although I've seen 406mph at 20k (ish) posted somewhere.
Will have 2x20mm and 2x.50 cals.

Perking - Yeah sure why not, it's a Spit after all.

Shoulda been done with a bubbletop, didn't affect performance :( .
« Last Edit: October 26, 2005, 01:03:21 PM by Kev367th »
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« Reply #43 on: October 26, 2005, 01:05:46 PM »
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I hate invasion stripes.  I hate invasion stripes with a passion.




Btw, the Pink Spit 9 and the Blue Spit 5 better be the first planes skinned.


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« Reply #44 on: October 26, 2005, 07:28:17 PM »
take a look at this websight stang it tells u about all the spits

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http://www.spitfireperformance.com/spittest.html

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should be it someone else gave it to me
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